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re: Did you know Neil Young apologized for his Nazi arse lyrics in "Southern Man" & "Alabama"?

Posted on 11/6/25 at 12:31 pm to
Posted by ActusHumanus
St. George, Louisiana
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 12:31 pm to
Always thought he sings like someone is standing on his nuts.
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 1:18 pm to
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 4:23 pm to
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lynard skynryd


Who?
Posted by MontanaMax
Oxford, MS
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 7:56 pm to
I’m not really a big Neil young fan as I always hated his vocals but I’m having a hard time connecting anything in these lyrics to something “nazi”. I feel folks have gotten a little irresponsible with the use of “nazi”. Just because you don’t agree with something being said, or in this case sung, doesn’t mean it has nazi undertones.

Also, Sweet Home Alabama fricking blows. The rest of their catalog on the other hand…
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 9:34 pm to
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Lyrics criticizing the historical racism of a location are Nazi lyrics?




historical racism is from "a location"?
Posted by Mobile Patriot
Mobile
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 10:42 pm to
Jim Croce, Buddy Holly, Otis Redding, and Lynyrd Skynard were all taken by plane crashes before their full potential could be reached.
Posted by moon
USA
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 10:58 pm to
What is "Nazi" about those lyrics? You're all up in your feelings lil piggy.

Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 11/7/25 at 6:25 pm to
I remember reading about his apology at least twenty years ago.
And guess what? He really didn't say anything that bad. The song is a reaction to a lot of shitty things that happened in Alabama in the sixties:
the Brimingham church bombing - killing 4 little girls, defying school segregation laws, the beating of marchers and protesters, etc.
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 11/9/25 at 9:14 am to
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songwriting has nothing to do w/intelligence, as springsteen illustrates

Come on,...in a generally sense, how one expresses themselves in any way- writing, speaking, etc, is a marker for one's intelligence. Not making a determination on Neil Young, but there is no better way to prove your intelligence than by the way that you express yourself.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 11/9/25 at 10:31 am to
Nothing on this entire site seems not to be polluted by right-wing politics...

Lynyrd Skynyrd were not from Alabama... they were stuck there - in Muscle Shoars - recording and after a lot of touring were homesick, so instantly that's a layer of sarcasm to the lyrics... Ed King, the bassist on the first record who switched to guitar, wrote the music to the song. He was a certified San Francisco hippie Liberal whom they met when they opened for his previous band, Strawberry Alarm Clock ("Incense and Peppermints") in the 60s, when Skynyrd was a psychedelic band, too. They didn't hate Alabama, they just wanted to be back in Jacksonville, FL (or San Francisco or Atlanta for Ed King). Skynyrd were hippies... they didn't like George Wallace ("BOO BOO BOO!!!!") or segregation... They did, however, LOVE Neil Young... and they idolized black musicians.

"We wrote 'Sweet Home Alabama' as a joke," Van Zant clarified a few years following the release. "We didn't even think about it. The words just came out that way. We just laughed like hell and said, 'Ain't that funny.' We love Neil Young. We love his music."

Neil apologized for painting with too broad of a brush... but I've never met anybody who didn't realize whether or not they were who was being described in those songs.

I've also been in Alabama (granted, in the "Liberal" enclaves of Birmingham and Tuscaloosa and Auburn/Opelika and Huntsville/Decatur and Mobile around artsy Liberal college students) when both of the Neil Young songs were played someplace and people didn't react negatively... however, at the first notes of the guitar riff to "Sweet Home Alabama" they yell expletives.

Next, Robbie Robertson, a Liberal Canadian who was Indigenous and Jewish, wrote "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down": out of fascination that poor Southerners - and particularly Levon Helm's family - had some misplaced pride in the Confederacy, even though it completely fricked them in every way imaginable when it existed.
This post was edited on 11/9/25 at 10:42 am
Posted by TG
Metairie
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Posted on 11/9/25 at 10:11 pm to

“A southern man don’t need him around any how”.
Posted by prouddawg
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 7:08 am to
And the apology didn’t make him suck any less as a singer. Go figure.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 2:26 pm to
This is not entirely new news.
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 3:37 pm to
If Neil Young's lyrics are "Nazi" what do you think of Warren Zevon's? He weighed in on this with:

Play it All Night Long

Grandpa pissed his pants again
He don't give a damn
Brother Billy has both guns drawn
He ain't been right since Vietnam
"Sweet home Alabama"
Play that dead band's song
Turn those speakers up full blast
Play it all night long
Daddy's doing Sister Sally
Grandma's dying of cancer now
The cattle all have brucellosis
We'll get through somehow
"Sweet home Alabama"
Play that dead band's song
Turn those speakers up full blast
Play it all night long
I'm going down to the Dew Drop Inn
See if I can drink enough
There ain't much to country living
Sweat, piss, jizz and blood
"Sweet home Alabama"
Play that dead band's song
Turn those speakers up full blast
Play it all night long
Posted by johnqpublic
Right here
Member since Oct 2017
807 posts
Posted on 11/10/25 at 3:57 pm to
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Neil may not know digital audio(although I suspect he does), but his songwriting demonstrates intelligence…


That's what you'd think. Songwriting prowess doesn't necessarily equate to intelligence. This is the fallacy the general public falls into. "Oh they are good at this thing, therefore they MUST be smart".

As someone who has worked with some very talented musicians, this is patently not true.

And Neil doesn't know crap about digital audio. "When they made the algorithm for digital audio there was a mistake... and they never fixed it" (paraphrase)

Abject moron when talking about digital audio.
Posted by johnqpublic
Right here
Member since Oct 2017
807 posts
Posted on 11/10/25 at 4:09 pm to
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Come on,...in a generally sense, how one expresses themselves in any way- writing, speaking, etc, is a marker for one's intelligence.


There are many artists through time who were not "smart". I have been searching for a quote from Sergei Diaghilev about the differences between Stravinsky and Prokofiev. I have been unable to find it but IIRC it essentially said, Stravinsky was a smart man and Prokofiev was not.

Just because someone has the ability to write moving music doesn't mean they are overall bright people. Sometimes, people are gifted at expressing something that resonates with others and still cannot form a any critical thought outside of perhaps a narrow band. Luckily for them, that narrow band works for them. IMO, that doesn't necessarily make someone a bright person in general.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 4:11 pm to
I don't think you know what a Nazi is.
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
4018 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 5:47 am to
Generally, I agree with you, but let me clarify my comments - artistic, verbal or written expression is a conduit of intelligence, not necessarily a sign of it.
Posted by aib799
Member since Jul 2014
529 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 9:33 pm to
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Also, Sweet Home Alabama fricking blows


For sure overplayed, but an outstanding, generational classic song. There is a reason it is still among the most played songs from that era.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86332 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 7:32 am to
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Lynyrd Skynyrd record sales: 28+ million Neil Young record sales: 75+ million


So Ronnie was active for like 13 years. Neil 65 years.


And



quote:

Lynyrd Skynyrd has sold over 38 million records in the United States as of 2023.



Strange thing to lie about.

They released an album from their last of the street survivors tour in 2019 and it spent a long time in the top album sales charts. It’s just a collection of all their old songs. Still outselling artists in 2020 and beyond.





This post was edited on 11/12/25 at 7:49 am
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