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re: Artists whose first album was their best album

Posted on 2/28/21 at 1:50 am to
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 2/28/21 at 1:50 am to
Gun Club... One of the greatest albums of all time
Posted by Saintsisit
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Posted on 2/28/21 at 8:13 am to
Besides the obvious of GNR, I'll add Down, Blind Melon, and Linkin Park.
Posted by Saintsisit
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Posted on 2/28/21 at 3:12 pm to
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Highly Suspect


I think The Boy Who Died Wolf was better than their debut. Both had hits and misses on them though. Now the 3rd album I'm not crazy about at all.
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 2/28/21 at 7:22 pm to
The Pretenders
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 3/1/21 at 10:01 am to
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Good call. That’s another clear cut one. One of the greatest guitar albums of all time.
Is it though? Their best song ever comes off of Adventure, and I prefer it.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 3/1/21 at 10:08 am to
The Cars
The Police
Son Volt
Wilco
John Prine
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 3/1/21 at 10:41 am to
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Nah. Evil Empire FTW


It's a worth while discussion. Disclaimer: Taste in music is SUBJECTIVE and everyone is entitled to their own opinion and in their own minds opinion is not wrong and they are not wrong because of their opinion.

Rank each album in terms of their "best songs", and then look down the track list of the two albums. IMHO, the top 3-4 tracks are close on the two albums with RATM ahead of Evil Empire. However, the farther down that list you go, the further ahead the original album gets. IMHO the last 3-4 tracks on Evil Empire are not to my fancy. But again, it's just my opinion.

1 Know your Enemy = Bulls on Parade

These two songs are very, very close. Two close for me to call here. If one put Bulls on Parade ahead, I couldn't argue they were wrong. In fact you might easily make the argument that BOP is their best song over all. But know your enemy is right on it's heels.

2 Killing in the Name of > People of the Sun
3 Freedom > Down Rodeo (The hook in Down Rodeo is dope (better), but freedom takes it with the chord progression in the final verse)
4 Revolver > Bombtrack
5.Wake Up > Vietnow
6 Take the Power Back >> Year Of Tha Boomerang
7 Fistful of Steel >> Roll Right
8 Bullet in the Head >> Snakecharmer
9 Township Rebellion > Without A Face
10 Tire Me > Settle for Nothing
11 Wind Below

This post was edited on 3/1/21 at 10:44 am
Posted by The Seaward
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Posted on 3/1/21 at 11:15 am to
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Is it though


I think it is, but I suppose this is highly subjective.

Marquee Moon is their best track IMO. In the running for the best guitar solo and the best ten minute plus runtime song of all-time in my book.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 3/1/21 at 11:27 am to
How could I forget this one...



Edit: I personally like the "Broken" Ep better, but it's technically not an album...
This post was edited on 3/1/21 at 11:31 am
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 3/1/21 at 11:27 am to
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Marquee Moon is their best track IMO
Have you given Days a chance? Lloyd singles it out in his multi part interview. Neat lesson video.
Posted by Tackle74
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Posted on 3/1/21 at 11:55 am to
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but Black Sabbath and then Dio declined after each debut.



Disagree, Mob Rules is an incredible album as is Last in Line
Posted by auggie
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Posted on 3/1/21 at 12:03 pm to
I never was a big Sabbath fan, or much of a metal fan in general, but I loved Mob Rules. I wore about 3 cassettes of that out.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 3/1/21 at 12:16 pm to
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Blind Melon


I gotta disagree strongly, and not because I don't love their debut album, but Soup is one of the best albums of the 90s.
Posted by KiwiHead
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Posted on 3/1/21 at 1:45 pm to
Zeeee bra....bruh
Posted by Muthsera
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Posted on 3/1/21 at 2:25 pm to
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Good call. That’s another clear cut one. One of the greatest guitar albums of all time.


Television had basically no chance to top Marquee Moon; it's easily one of the top 10-20 albums of all time and should be on the short list of most influential albums ever. Adventure is a fricking great album.

Whoever said Beastie Boys has obviously never listened to Paul's Boutique which is clearly their best album.
This post was edited on 3/1/21 at 2:29 pm
Posted by NoSaint
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Posted on 3/1/21 at 6:52 pm to
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Gun Club... One of the greatest albums of all time


Hadn’t listened before. Regret that it took so long to try but happy to have done it
Posted by limbaughnomicon
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 11:03 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/13/22 at 9:18 am
Posted by Saintsisit
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 7:56 am to
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The first album is usually a band putting forward all the best stuff they already have.


Expect that's not usually. I can name many more bands off the top of my head whose debut wasn't their best.
Metallica, Chili Peppers, Tool, Chevelle, Alice in Chains, Megadeth, Korn, Pantera, Puscifer, STP.
Posted by tgrfan87
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:15 am to
I'll add Counting Crows first album. One I always listen to from beginning to end.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:20 am to
The Head and The Heart

Of course they're pretty much a different band now
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