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re: X-Men vs The Avengers Possibly on the Horizon
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:47 pm to Baloo
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:47 pm to Baloo
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Honestly, the X-Men aren't that hard to fit into the universe due to their outcast nature.
In recently watching Infinity Wars for the first time, I couldn't help but think "where are the X-Men during this massive global conflict?" I realize why the X-Men characters aren't in the Avengers movies, but it's still silly to me to have to suspend disbelief that the X-Men either don't exist in this universe or somehow have no involvement whatsoever in these Armageddon threats to earth.
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:54 pm to Jwodie
That’s how it often was in the comics, though. The X-Men had global and galactic conflicts that didn’t really bleed into the non-mutant comics. Obviously, there’s a different dynamic in movies that are theoretically set in the real world, but we’re suspending more disbelief than usual to begin with when watching superhero movies.
Interesting dynamic going forward, though, since the MCU has expanded its audience so far beyond the original comic book dorks (of which I was one back in the day).
Interesting dynamic going forward, though, since the MCU has expanded its audience so far beyond the original comic book dorks (of which I was one back in the day).
Posted on 3/6/19 at 2:15 pm to Jwodie
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In recently watching Infinity Wars for the first time, I couldn't help but think "where are the X-Men during this massive global conflict?" I realize why the X-Men characters aren't in the Avengers movies, but it's still silly to me to have to suspend disbelief that the X-Men either don't exist in this universe or somehow have no involvement whatsoever in these Armageddon threats to earth.
Why would they exist in this universe? There's been no mention or involvement of mutants.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 2:21 pm to Freauxzen
Even if they did exist... how would they know about this intergalactic threat? They up on the Wakanda News Network? Nick Fury, perhaps the most connected man on earth, didn't know about it, so we expect the X-Men just to stumble onto it by accident?
Posted on 3/6/19 at 2:28 pm to Freauxzen
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There's been no mention or involvement of mutants.
Because Marvel couldn't use the word "Mutant" in any of their films. That's why Quicksilver and Scarlett Witch are not treated as mutants in the Avengers films.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 2:46 pm to Green Chili Tiger
Super Skrull was held by the Fox side.
But you can't really do the Skrulls or Super Skrull without him so MCU went with the Nazi Skrull Chitauri as roobots.
It's kind of the same thing with the Herald's of Galactus. Even though Surfer was the only one packaged with him, why use them without the main piece.
But you can't really do the Skrulls or Super Skrull without him so MCU went with the Nazi Skrull Chitauri as roobots.
It's kind of the same thing with the Herald's of Galactus. Even though Surfer was the only one packaged with him, why use them without the main piece.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 2:50 pm to boxcarbarney
Unless they do something crazy in Endgame, there is no way Professor X and Magneto currently exist in this Marvel Movie Universe.
Neither of them would have just sat out everything that has happened in the last 10 years. And the X-Men would have been pretty dang handy in the New York battle.
Neither of them would have just sat out everything that has happened in the last 10 years. And the X-Men would have been pretty dang handy in the New York battle.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 3:02 pm to Sus-Scrofa
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Unless they do something crazy in Endgame, there is no way Professor X and Magneto currently exist in this Marvel Movie Universe. Neither of them would have just sat out everything that has happened in the last 10 years. And the X-Men would have been pretty dang handy in the New York battle.
Makes me wonder if they'll do something like have the events of the Infiniti War somehow spawn the age of Mutants.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 3:12 pm to Baloo
I like to think this is the universe that Charles Xavier didn't start a cycle of raising child soldiers and instead helps them heal themselves and maintain normalcy.
This post was edited on 3/6/19 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 3/6/19 at 3:16 pm to Sus-Scrofa
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Neither of them would have just sat out everything that has happened in the last 10 years. And the X-Men would have been pretty dang handy in the New York battle.
Happens in the comics every month.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 3:35 pm to ZappBrannigan
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Super Skrull was held by the Fox side.
But you can't really do the Skrulls or Super Skrull without him so MCU went with the Nazi Skrull Chitauri as roobots.
The Skrulls are the villains in Captain Marvel.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 4:47 pm to WoWyHi
Personally. Idk if im in favor. Just because you can, doesn't necessarily mean you should. Personally, I like both teams having their own universe. Maybe, if they portray it as their 2 worlds colliding in a one-off movie. Thats the only way.
I don't want Marvel to stuff too many characters in this movie universe. I really fear that could dilute the product after a while
I don't want Marvel to stuff too many characters in this movie universe. I really fear that could dilute the product after a while
Posted on 3/6/19 at 6:16 pm to boxcarbarney
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Because Marvel couldn't use the word "Mutant" in any of their films. That's why Quicksilver and Scarlett Witch are not treated as mutants in the Avengers films.
Well yeah, but in the reality of the MCU films, the world that they create, why would someone worry about the X-Men showing up?
There are no X-Men in the MCU as it stands.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 8:01 pm to Freauxzen
While X men v Avengers obviously has huge potential, the Fantastic Four and their subset The Future Foundation(Can’t express how big that could be for Disney, & Epcot) should be the focus first.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 8:08 pm to WoWyHi
I have to say even in the comics I’m opposed to the X-Men and Avengers being in the same universe. It just doesn’t make sense why the mutants are reviled but Captain America and Thor are not. The universes just clash IMO. Like where were they in all these movies? You’d think Magneto would be there fighting Ultron.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 8:09 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
Fantastic Four needs to be brought over for Doom, Galactus, and Silver Surfer.
I wouldn’t be mad if Marvel did a MCU 2 with all of the X-Men and Deadpool in their own universe and leave them under the Fox label. Wouldn’t even have to reboot Deadpool either. Actually, better not reboot Deadpool.
I wouldn’t be mad if Marvel did a MCU 2 with all of the X-Men and Deadpool in their own universe and leave them under the Fox label. Wouldn’t even have to reboot Deadpool either. Actually, better not reboot Deadpool.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 8:12 pm to OMLandshark
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Like where were they in all these movies? You’d think Magneto would be there fighting Ultron.
This is where the quantum realm and time travel come into play.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 8:12 pm to Baloo
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Honestly, the X-Men aren't that hard to fit into the universe due to their outcast nature. Now, you have to explain why the public is okay with superpowered people like Avengers yet fear and hate the X-Men, who got their powers at birth, but Marvel's been dealing with that for decades. But once you resolve that, it shows why the X-Men don't really stick their necks out for most of the Avengers issues. The X-Men are like activists concerned with mutant rights.
The comics haven’t resolved this. Surely there would be a situation in all 20 of these movies thus far where a mutant in some form would be present and fight the threat. I don’t see how you can explain it away.
There’s only one scenario coming to my head on how this could work and would make for a pretty epic cliffhanger to Endgame: When they “undo” the snap, they don’t do it completely right and instead fuse superpowered mutants into the history of the MCU simply on accident. That’s the only scenario I can see where the X-Men can work in this universe.
This post was edited on 3/6/19 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 3/6/19 at 8:13 pm to TheeRealCarolina
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Fantastic Four needs to be brought over for Doom, Galactus, and Silver Surfer.
I wouldn’t be mad if Marvel did a MCU 2 with all of the X-Men and Deadpool in their own universe
I kinda really want to see Deadpool and Star Lord interact tho.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 8:22 pm to Baloo
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how would they know about this intergalactic threat?
I don’t know? Maybe when they invaded New York in the first Avengers.
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They up on the Wakanda News Network?
We see news reels in Infinity War. They would know where the Avengers HQ was.
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Nick Fury, perhaps the most connected man on earth, didn't know about it, so we expect the X-Men just to stumble onto it by accident?
Now that’s a plot hole due to Captain Marvel.
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