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re: Woodstock 99 is awesome for 45 minutes, then it takes a hard left turn.
Posted on 9/10/21 at 6:11 pm to Big Scrub TX
Posted on 9/10/21 at 6:11 pm to Big Scrub TX
I had to turn it off as it was cringe. But didn't Limp Bizkit perform on Saturday and there was still Sunday acts? And Sunday was when the fires started.
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Posted on 9/10/21 at 6:22 pm to Corso
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DMX literally led the crowd in a chant of my n---a and they portrayed it as mass racism by white boys.
I have never said the N word in my life but I would have had a hard time not joining D and the crowd there.
His set was fire.
Posted on 9/10/21 at 8:32 pm to Corso
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DMX literally led the crowd in a chant of my n---a and they portrayed it as mass racism by white boys.
I'm not here to defend a doc that I thought was just okay, but that's definitely not how that sequence was portrayed.
Posted on 9/10/21 at 8:40 pm to DaleGribble
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How many FreakNiks have you attended? Did you get raped by black men, like a lot of these females did?
Sorry, I just saw this post from July, and I want to just remind this dude that he thought this was a coherent, presumably intelligent gotcha response. And that's hilarious, and he should feel like a bitch of he reads it this 2 months later.
Posted on 9/10/21 at 8:41 pm to Jay Are
Posted on 9/10/21 at 9:00 pm to Jay Are
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Sorry, I just saw this post from July, and I want to just remind this dude that he thought this was a coherent, presumably intelligent gotcha response. And that's hilarious, and he should feel like a bitch of he reads it this 2 months later.
Tell me where I'm wrong. Are you trying to claim that there wasn't any rapes? I lived less than 100 miles from Atlanta in the 90s. I know what FreakNik was like. Clearly, you don't have a clue.
You keep trying to get me with these necro replies...like a bitch.
This post was edited on 9/10/21 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 9/10/21 at 9:56 pm to LasVegasTiger
They kept talking and talking and talking about white male angst, blaming Limp Bizkit, RHCP, etc... but not a peep about a band that sings a song called frick you I won't do what you tell me. And then lights the American flag on fire.
Posted on 9/10/21 at 10:03 pm to SmackDaniels
It was a woke view of the event. That scene was bad news, but the reasons given were out of a woke playbook.
Posted on 9/10/21 at 10:14 pm to FreddieMac
It's why Rage will never be blamed because they're on team woke.
The first name in their band is literally Rage and yet not a single person points a finger at them.
The first name in their band is literally Rage and yet not a single person points a finger at them.
Posted on 9/10/21 at 11:59 pm to Jay Are
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but that's definitely not how that sequence was portrayed.
How was it portrayed? Why bring it up? Why delve into it?
Posted on 9/12/21 at 8:42 am to Corso
Because of this thread I new what to expect from the commentary. I really enjoyed the documentary, but them trying to tie today's views was pitiful.
I also feel if your are singing or rapping the lyrics to a song you (especially at a concert) you are not being racist you are singing a song.
I also feel if your are singing or rapping the lyrics to a song you (especially at a concert) you are not being racist you are singing a song.
Posted on 9/12/21 at 9:55 am to Split2874
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I also feel if your are singing or rapping the lyrics to a song you (especially at a concert) you are not being racist you are singing a song.
How dare you
Posted on 9/12/21 at 10:41 am to Ham Solo
quote:..and thats supposed to be awesome?
It's like a time machine back to the TRL days for a bit.
..Seeing who is #1 today between nsync or limp bizkit..
Posted on 9/12/21 at 9:02 pm to Split2874
Tried to watch but had to turn it off. That was pitiful.
And to some saying hypocrisy earlier in the thread, I don’t see docs being made about the 2000 Source Awards and the culture that led to that event.
And to some saying hypocrisy earlier in the thread, I don’t see docs being made about the 2000 Source Awards and the culture that led to that event.
Posted on 9/13/21 at 9:55 am to wareaglepete
I'm sort of obsessed with Woodstock 99, which is a conflagration of some of the worst decsions ever made in pop culutre. If you were expecting a positive spin in a doc on the most infamous concert outside of Altamont, which killed the Woodstock brand and featured several deaths, mulitple sexual assaults, and a riot then... I don't know what to tell you. It was a disaster.
But y'all must have a different copy of the doc on your app because the one I watched was pretty clear that it was the organizers who were abolsutely at fault, and their attempts to defelct blame onto Limp Bizkit was sort of pathetic. They locked up a bunch of kids on asphalt in searing heat, covered the place in raw sewage, denied them water, prevented them from sleeping, and then provided the angriest music on the planet to amp them up more and... well, it was a pretty toxic mix.
I do think the DMX thing was weird, as he was about the only person who got out of there with his reputation increased. When he died, people referenced that show as one of his high points. That was a star making turn for him.
I do think the doc underplayed just how disastrous a decision it was to have techno going all night long on top of metal all day, as the noise bleed essentially made it impossible for anyone to sleep, even if they could on a literally shite-covered field. It was like being the subject of a psy-op campaign. Of course the kids snapped, everything pointed the to that, and the naked greed of the prmotoers, at the expense of the health and safety of everyone there, was truly appalling.
The funny thing is they pointed to Coachella as the New Way, and if you look at modern Coachella... well, it has a lot more in common with Woodstock 99 than its humble beginnings. Those big festival shows are ruthlessly greedy these days, though they've learned the lesson not to deny people water.
But y'all must have a different copy of the doc on your app because the one I watched was pretty clear that it was the organizers who were abolsutely at fault, and their attempts to defelct blame onto Limp Bizkit was sort of pathetic. They locked up a bunch of kids on asphalt in searing heat, covered the place in raw sewage, denied them water, prevented them from sleeping, and then provided the angriest music on the planet to amp them up more and... well, it was a pretty toxic mix.
I do think the DMX thing was weird, as he was about the only person who got out of there with his reputation increased. When he died, people referenced that show as one of his high points. That was a star making turn for him.
I do think the doc underplayed just how disastrous a decision it was to have techno going all night long on top of metal all day, as the noise bleed essentially made it impossible for anyone to sleep, even if they could on a literally shite-covered field. It was like being the subject of a psy-op campaign. Of course the kids snapped, everything pointed the to that, and the naked greed of the prmotoers, at the expense of the health and safety of everyone there, was truly appalling.
The funny thing is they pointed to Coachella as the New Way, and if you look at modern Coachella... well, it has a lot more in common with Woodstock 99 than its humble beginnings. Those big festival shows are ruthlessly greedy these days, though they've learned the lesson not to deny people water.
Posted on 9/13/21 at 10:12 am to Baloo
What I posted when I initially watched it.
I think documentary was OK but the Coachella deep throating? What the frick was that all about? Ooooh a bunch of pretentious fricks in Cali can put on a made for instagram concert? Nobody give s a shite about the music at coachella. A bunch of narcissists just want to be seen there.
Anybody who couldn't see back in '99 that it was going to be a shitshow, wasn't paying attention. It was basically called Corporatestock 99 before it even happened. Pure Money grab and add miserable conditions. Who'd have thunk it?
They never should have had a woodstock '94, much less a '99. fricking boomer shite.
I think documentary was OK but the Coachella deep throating? What the frick was that all about? Ooooh a bunch of pretentious fricks in Cali can put on a made for instagram concert? Nobody give s a shite about the music at coachella. A bunch of narcissists just want to be seen there.
Anybody who couldn't see back in '99 that it was going to be a shitshow, wasn't paying attention. It was basically called Corporatestock 99 before it even happened. Pure Money grab and add miserable conditions. Who'd have thunk it?
They never should have had a woodstock '94, much less a '99. fricking boomer shite.
This post was edited on 9/13/21 at 10:14 am
Posted on 9/13/21 at 1:58 pm to Cdawg
I do like how the doc goes after the original Woodstcock, too. Most of what we think of as Woodstock is the movie and didn't actually happen. The original concert was a disaster as well, and it's a miracle more people didn't die or get seriously hurt. In that way, 99 is a perfect tribute to the original.
It's funny how 94 kinda gets off light: there was a show, people sort of liked it, nothing memorable happened (save the Green Day mud fight) and we went on about our lives. It's a grat Gen X metaphor, sort of this forgotten middle child, but it's not like it did anything to merit the attention either.
It's funny how 94 kinda gets off light: there was a show, people sort of liked it, nothing memorable happened (save the Green Day mud fight) and we went on about our lives. It's a grat Gen X metaphor, sort of this forgotten middle child, but it's not like it did anything to merit the attention either.
Posted on 9/13/21 at 2:22 pm to Baloo
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I do like how the doc goes after the original Woodstcock, too.
Same here. Being born in 70, I always bought into the romanticizing of the event, even after seeing the documentary and thinking "don't really feel like I missed out on anything by being there. It actually looks pretty miserable there."
But try telling a Baby Boomer that.
Posted on 9/13/21 at 3:01 pm to Ham Solo
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Does anyone else remember those times? Am I the fool? When you run events on this scale, bad shite is going to happen. People need to go home reset, take a shower and come back
Was that the one that someone had the brilliant idea of using the Hell's Angels as security?
Posted on 9/13/21 at 4:12 pm to Baloo
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But y'all must have a different copy of the doc on your app because the one I watched was pretty clear that it was the organizers who were abolsutely at fault, and their attempts to defelct blame onto Limp Bizkit was sort of pathetic.
I mean, I agree completely on who was really at fault, but are you saying the doc didn’t pretty clearly and strongly (to the point of ridiculousness) try to place much if not most of the blame on the angry young white male narrative?
Spot on, everything else, just not sure on that issue what you were saying.
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