re: Wonder Woman 1984 Official Thread **SPOILERS**

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So, you really thought this was a good movie?

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It was terrible, but the mystery of the kid's ethnic background was far down the list of things wrong with it.

Gal Gadot cannot act. She's ok looking. Not an OT 10. They need to kill this franchise because WW just doesn't translate well to the big screen.

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They need to kill this franchise because WW just doesn't translate well to the big screen.

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Except when it did.

I know, right?

If there's a movie made for them, it's THIS one.

I dunno. I've not seen it. I heard some of the claims were overstated, and it's not as bad as some expected.

I've also heard it's boring. Long and drawn out. I really liked the 1st one so I'd be bummed if it tanked.

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Gal Gadot cannot act. She's ok looking. Not an OT 10.

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Gal Gadot

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She's ok looking. Not an OT 10

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LMAO

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So you didn't read them back in the day I see, she had an invisible jet to fly.

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We all know the jet, I'm telling you there was often much more than just the jet, because her powers changed and evolved constantly throughout the decades.

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Gliding on the wind is far different than showing her use the rope and flying as they did in the movie.

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But flying is a power she had in the actual 1980s, making it appropriate for this movie, even if executed in a eye-rolling sort of way.

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there's no real villain

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And therein lies the crux of EVERY DC movie, save The Dark Knight and maybe Dark Knight Rises, if you catch me on a good day.

In fairness, it plagues half of the Marvel flicks, too.

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No, this is different. This IS NO villain in this movie.

Max Lord is a shady con artist, but he's only trying to make something of his life. He's running a Ponzi scheme, but he doesn't WANT it to be one, he wants the business to make money (find oil). Early on when he's trading wishes for stuff in return, he wants the Egyptian guy's oil fields, so his business in return becomes legit. He is driven to "not be a loser" so his son is proud of him. His wish, to BE the Dream-stone (in other words, to have the power for himself), is trying to maximize his wish. It's like wishing to have the Genie's powers (thus, unlimited wishes), instead of the one-off deal.

Barbara Minerva AKA Cheetah, even moreso, is not a villain. She's socially awkward and unpopular (really, when you get multiple PhD's and get hired to work for the Smithsonian, I wouldn't think you'd care, but whatever), and her only wish is to be "like Diana", which she simply thinks is strong and confident, as well as being secure in herself. She just wants to be popular, she's a little shocked when she finds out she's super-strong.
Her second wish, she says she doesn't want to be like anyone, she wants to be the "apex predator", so that's saying she wants to be the one on top. That's a more self-secure wish than to "be like Diana".

That's it... there's your bad guys. No evil baddies, no criminal masterminds, just a couple less fortunate folks who want their wishes to come true (and then stay true).

The "bad guy" I suppose, is the wish stone itself, and the temptation it provides to give you something you didn't earn for yourself.
And later on, Max manipulating people into making wishes they didn't think out; I'm sure the US President would, with consideration, wish for something more profound than "more missiles closer to the USSR".

This concept doesn't lend itself well to costumed superhero stories, because they're at their best when they are kicking someone's arse, not when they're grappling with philosophical dilemmas.

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Barbara Minerva AKA Cheetah

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There was no closure to her story... like at all.

Barbara all dolled up at the benefit could get it.