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re: ‘Winning Time: The Rise Of The Lakers Dynasty’ Now Playing on HBO

Posted on 3/7/22 at 4:06 pm to
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112354 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 4:06 pm to
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Magic being diagnosed with HIV essentially brought an end to Showtime. The Lakers had just made the finals vs the Michael Jordan led bulls earlier in the year.


Yeah I know not sure what that has to do with what I said
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112354 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 4:15 pm to
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kinda like it. I remember that day vividly and it is part of the tragedy. So leading off with it is a nice move.


I wasn’t complaining about it being part of the show, obviously that’s the driving force of the overall plot of the show in the long run

It just felt weird to throw the audience into the deep water of this insanely emotional and important event in the story as the first scene in the show, but then never once touch anything close to that same note for the rest of the episode, going as far as to undercut any scenes that could possibly have tension with either an immediate joke, a 4th wall break, or both just to reassure the audience that this is all still great and fun

Not saying it has to be the Wire or anything, but it needed one more scene atleast to remind you of the actual backbone of the story or atleast remind you that they have that card to play, or it’s going to feel really weird when they try to force it later

If the plan is to stick to that style and narrative technique for the whole show, I think it’s going to wear thin very quickly for people- even the ones who really enjoyed it in the first episode. Which is again why something like Ballers comes to mind, where there’s big names associated with it on both sides of the camera, that’s extremely stylish and looks amazing, and has some really good actors/performances, but ultimately there wasn’t anything below the surface

But hey it’s the first episode, still way too early to be sure of anything and I’ll still be watching
This post was edited on 3/7/22 at 4:18 pm
Posted by TomBuchanan
East Egg, Long Island
Member since Jul 2019
6231 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 5:16 pm to
Second worst 'Donald" of the 80s He just couldn't help himself rent fricking free


ETA: Excited for the show though.
This post was edited on 3/7/22 at 5:17 pm
Posted by brewhan davey
Audubon Place
Member since Sep 2010
32800 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 6:28 pm to
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John C Reilly is a national treasure.
Posted by jbraua
Oklahoma City, OK
Member since Oct 2007
6794 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 11:27 pm to
It’s pretty damn good so far
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
9216 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 9:00 am to
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Wonder if they have the balls to show Magic being queer




Wait, what?

Magic is gay?
Posted by TomBuchanan
East Egg, Long Island
Member since Jul 2019
6231 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:13 am to
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It’s pretty damn good so far



Rob Morgan, the guy playing Earving Sr. is an amazing actor.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6448 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 12:05 pm to
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Second worst 'Donald" of the 80s He just couldn't help himself rent fricking free


There were a few lines like this that made me roll my eyes...
Posted by Corso
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2020
10785 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 11:16 pm to
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John C Reilly is a national treasure.


I hadn't paid any attention to this and thought it was a documentary series. I clicked on it out of curiosity and first thing I saw was John C. Reilly, kept watching and I'm completely hooked. This is one of the few things I've ever seen that bothers to get actors that look remotely close to their real life counterparts. I love anything 70s style and I'm hooked on this shite
Posted by Swoozie
Member since Jan 2021
1016 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 10:51 pm to
He was really great. The best part of the show so far. I’m not sold on the rest of it yet but will give it a few episodes.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6448 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:56 am to
I thought this show would have some traffic this morning. I enjoyed episode 2.
Didn't realize Jonas Hill was the director until I saw the credits last night.
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
50854 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:59 am to
I'm going to watch when I get home tonight. Looking forward to it.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
36076 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 9:06 am to
I chuckled last week when I saw that the Red Auerbach in the news footage was Michael Chiklis. Then he showed up this week as a featured player and killed it.

Chiklis is so underrated. He's entertaining in pretty much everything.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6448 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 9:32 am to
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Red Auerbach in the news footage was Michael Chiklis


Yeah he killed it..
Posted by nvcowboyfan
James Turner Street, Birmingham,UK
Member since Nov 2007
2955 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 10:32 am to
I'm no Laker fan by any means but the depiction of Jerry West as the depressed alcoholic jerk is crazy over the top in the first two episodes. The guy is one of the most respected NBA executives over the past 2 decades. As entertaining as this may be to portray a living person like this I wonder how open it makes them to a lawsuit.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
29423 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 10:40 am to
Kinda meh episode 2 to me

Also, the other chick Magic is hooking up with, not Cookie, is the actress who plays College-age Beth in This is Us.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6448 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 10:47 am to
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I'm no Laker fan by any means but the depiction of Jerry West as the depressed alcoholic jerk is crazy over the top in the first two episodes. The guy is one of the most respected NBA executives over the past 2 decades. As entertaining as this may be to portray a living person like this I wonder how open it makes them to a lawsuit.



I looked around and saw alot of folks pissed off about his portrayal but haven't found anything from him personally. But I agree, it makes him look like a madman.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
22234 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 10:48 am to
Just finished episode two. Now I know they've taken some liberties with the truth for this show, but so far it's been pretty fricking entertaining.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66459 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 10:51 am to
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And one of his signatures is breaking the fourth wall to simplify a complex topic to the audience in an entertaining way, and in that first episode he did that in almost every scene and couldn’t go longer than like 2 minutes before using it again, which is strange because the stuff he’s explaining is completely unnecessary, like I don’t really need to be told explicitly that basketball was different in the 70s and how it can be fun to watch with more superstars or explicitly state every characters thoughts and motivations upon introduction.


yeah, this is pretty much keeping me from watching. christ thats annoying. it's one thing to do that for credit default swaps and collateralized debt obligation, but we don't need that for a fricking basketball show
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6448 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 10:54 am to
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the other chick Magic is hooking up with,


Cindy Day > Cookie
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