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re: Will Smith has turned down some really big roles

Posted on 6/16/25 at 7:29 am to
Posted by NotoriousFSU
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 6/16/25 at 7:29 am to
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Im not even a jamie fox fan


How? He’s one of the most talented individuals in entertainment.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 6/16/25 at 7:34 am to
He had a ton of positive public cred on his side & he’s just let it flush down the drain. Not drugs, not seedy kiddie related scandals, but simple being a spineless simp to his manipulative evil wife who’ll flaunt her affairs in his face , the entire world & laugh.

Just can’t understand why.
Posted by HuskyPanda
Philly
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 6/16/25 at 8:07 am to
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I can somewhat understand turning down The Matrix as the Wachowskis weren't huge names in the business


He made a video about the pitch they gave and if he was being honest, they didn't pitch it to him well enough to take the part.

Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 6/16/25 at 8:12 am to
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it wasn’t as painful in retrospect as his decision to turn down Neo in “The Matrix.”
The movie would have sucked with Will fricking Smith in it. I thank god every day he turned it down.
Posted by BigGreenTiger
Member since Mar 2022
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Posted on 6/16/25 at 8:19 am to
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“We’re thinking like… imagine you’re in a fight. You, like, jump. Imagine if you could stop jumping in the middle of the jump. But then, people could see around you 360 degrees while you stop jumping. We’re going to invent these cameras and then people can see the whole jump when you stop in the middle of the jump.”



to be fair, that's a horrible pitch.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 6/16/25 at 8:46 am to
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I wonder if people, especially Smith, ever consider that some of these movies might not have been hits if he had accepted the roles. We often underestimate how much influence an actor brings to a film, from how they interpret a character and improvise lines to how they interact with the cast and shape the story itself. Great movies succeed because they capture something elusive, something magical that cannot be predicted or fully explained. That is why they are so rare. Change just one element, especially the lead actor, and that magic can easily disappear.

Is this where we pretend that Will Smith wasn't one of the biggest box office draws in the universe for a while?

He would have absolutely killed it in Django. Foxx is good in that, but Smith would've done just as well, if not better. He also could have pulled off Inception as well since that was more about story/plot than Leo's acting. Will Smith may be sort of a piece of shite in real life, but he's an excellent actor, especially back then.

The Matrix is one of the only ones I think he wouldn't have been as good in. That role seemed perfect for someone like Keanu, and I'm not sure the feel of the movie would've been the same with Smith in it.

And of all the things to consider about Will Smith's career, the biggest role he should've turned down was the role of "jealous husband" at the Oscars and he should've told Jada Pinkett to kick rocks for making him do that. frick Will Smith.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 6/16/25 at 8:49 am to
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The movie would have sucked with Will fricking Smith in it. I thank god every day he turned it down.

You thank God every day that Will Smith turned down the Matrix?

Do you set an alarm to thank Him for that, or do you randomly happen to think about The Matrix, or Will Smith, once a day in order to give thanks?

What an odd thing to say.

Posted by John Casey
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 6/16/25 at 9:39 am to
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I wonder if people, especially Smith, ever consider that some of these movies might not have been hits if he had accepted the roles


True, but Nolan and Tarantino have a pretty good track record at the box office, no matter the actor.
Posted by BhamTigah
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Posted on 6/16/25 at 9:57 am to
I need to send Will a thank you card for not ruining The Matrix and Django Unchained.
Posted by MasonTiger
Mason, Ohio
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 6/16/25 at 10:02 am to
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Will Smith has turned down some really big roles

Not surprising. He’s not exactly known for making good decisions.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
63368 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 10:29 am to
I give thanks unto the Lord that Will Smith didn't prevent the existence of such an awesome movie.

If you take Jada out of the sequels, they aren't bad. A lot of their suckness comes from angry count Jada snapping at everyone. Seeing her onscreen is like nails on a chalkboard.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 6/16/25 at 10:33 am to
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If you take Jada out of the sequels, they aren't bad.


I've always enjoyed Reloaded. It's a fun action movie. Revolutions was just bad
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 6/16/25 at 11:25 am to
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I give thanks unto the Lord that Will Smith didn't prevent the existence of such an awesome movie.

Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 6/16/25 at 11:33 am to
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He would have absolutely killed it in Django. Foxx is good in that, but Smith would've done just as well, if not better.

A lot of moving variables with this, but I cannot blindly disagree. I recall stories coming out during award season that year about how Tarantino kept tweaking the story during filming, even to the point of redoing the final scene, because of the way Foxx played the role. Apparently, this is not uncommon for QT to do during his films. Is he able to do that with as much success with Will? Does Will challenge some of the changes more than Foxx resulting in some compromises?

Posted by SUB
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Posted on 6/16/25 at 11:35 am to
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Smith told GQ magazine that he “didn’t want to make a slavery film about vengeance,”


How ironic.

Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/16/25 at 2:37 pm to
I can sort of understand The Matrix. It was a weird concept with unknown directors. I can even *maybe* understand Inception, although that is as stretch.

But turning down Tarantino, at that time, and thinking you understand the story he wrote better?

Crazy
Posted by Floridafan813
Member since Apr 2025
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Posted on 6/16/25 at 4:48 pm to
The Django one is the worst he said he turned it down because Waltz killed Leo’s character instead of Django.
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12356 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 4:53 pm to
about the time Matrix would have been pitched and being made, Will Smith had made Men in Black and Independence Day. Matrix would have been a different movie with him in it, he would have hammed it up a bit more and it would have come across differently. I don't think it would have been the cultural phenomenon that is was with Reeves in the role.

As for Inception, Dicaprio is ten times the dramatic actor that Smith is, that movie would have been very different too.

I think he could have done very well in the Django role though. I think he has better range than Foxx does.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
15753 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 5:01 pm to
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I wanted to make that movie so badly, but I felt the only way was, it had to be a love story, not a vengeance story.”

Yes of course. Quentin Tarantino is known for making love stories.

Dumbass.

Will Smith should learn to shut the frick up, sign on with quality directors, and do whatever they pay him to do - which should include shutting the frick up unless its in the script.
This post was edited on 6/16/25 at 5:02 pm
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162153 posts
Posted on 6/17/25 at 7:06 am to
Django: (to another slave). You know the difference between me and you? I make this look good (steps out in slave rags)

Coulda been iconic

Smiths run is almost perfectly summed up in the difference between Men in Black 1 and 2. The first one he’s toned down, likable, and a just a player in the story…by the time the second one came out he had become a mega star with creative input, it became a will smith vehicle, and was mostly terrible
This post was edited on 6/17/25 at 7:10 am
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