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Why was Man of Steel so hated?

Posted on 6/20/14 at 3:41 am
Posted by xxKylexx
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2011
4039 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 3:41 am
Not a big Superman fan in general but I thought it was a fun movie.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35284 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 3:48 am to
Man of Steel was a high octane, superhero, powerhouse of a movie. The action sequences were a blast, but at times over the top. The score was powerful, but sometimes over the top. The dialogue was poor. Superman and Jorel were great casting, IMO. Everyone else was not.

So.....does that translate to a great movie? No. But IMO it translates to a fun superhero movie.

I enjoyed seeing Superman kick arse like he never has before. A lot of fans enjoyed this. A lot of the fans wanted more of a "I have to save the people" type of mentality from Superman. And in some ways, I think they're right.

For future installments to be more successful, they need to find a better balance for what Superman is. I believe CA 2 found this balance perfectly. CA was badass, and yet he still had that "I will save the people" mentality. Since Superman is fighting on a much higher scale than most superheros, it will be more difficult for them to accomplish this.

He battles with as much speed as the Flash and with the strength of the Hulk. Collateral damage is harder to avoid in that situation.

What that balance is......I don't know. But they need to find it to make Superman complete, IMO

With that being said, I loved Man of Steel.
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 4:17 am
Posted by Qwerty
Member since Dec 2010
2114 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 5:29 am to
That was probably the best, fairest review I've ever read about man of steel. I loved it too despite its problems.
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14422 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 5:35 am to
quote:

Why was Man of Steel so hated?


#1. It wasn't "so hated"

#2. If you would've properly utilized the search feature, the opinions of the Man of Steel that you seek would've been instantly available.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108750 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 6:13 am to
Honestly, the film was the absolute antithesis to Superman Returns. I don't necessarily think that's a good thing since they went ridiculously over-the-top with the action sequences. I don't hate the movie, but I've got lots of issues with it.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98974 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 6:20 am to
It's not hated.

Is it flawed? Yes. Few movies, superhero or not, are perfect.

Is it fun? Yes.

Is it the best live action presentation of Superman on the big screen? Unquestionably.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37311 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 6:25 am to
quote:

#1. It wasn't "so hated"


This. It only seems hated because the people that dislike it probably have a more personal or a long standing relation to the property, so their opinions are more in disappointment.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39736 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 6:32 am to
I really liked it.

I don't understand the beef. If Superman fought several other supermen who were intent on destroying the planet, there would be mass destruction.

I had two main problems. No way anyone would just let that happen to their father. I don't just call BS, I call eyerolling levels of BS requiring vision repair surgery.

Also the ending. I didn't mind what happened to Zod, but did mind the way it happened. They beat each other up for 2 hours then suddenly snap.

The idea that Superman would never kill perhaps stems FROM what happened in movie one. He now has to deal with the death and destruction he caused so going forward he will strive to do better.

A few million deaths certainly is better than the whole fracking planet.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20783 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 6:45 am to
quote:

Honestly, the film was the absolute antithesis to Superman Returns. I don't necessarily think that's a good thing since they went ridiculously over-the-top with the action sequences. I don't hate the movie, but I've got lots of issues with it.


Pretty much how I feel.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76403 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 6:52 am to
On this board it may not be hated but its not highly regarded either. IRL most people I know loved it.

I loved it bc it was finally a superman movie without the campiness. It was violent and kind of gritty. Superman was cast perfectly, his costume looked great, the story was good enough, and the dialogue wasnt bad enough to distract from the movie. It was exactly the Superman movie I'd been wanting.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
78026 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 6:59 am to
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#2. If you would've properly utilized the search feature, the opinions of the Man of Steel that you seek would've been instantly available.


I suppose you ALWAYS do a thorough search before posting any topic.
Posted by 911Moto
Member since Sep 2013
5491 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:36 am to
I liked it better on rewatch, but didn't enjoy it much at the cinema. It just didn't have the "charm" that the old ones had, especially regarding the Lous relationship. Thought Henry Cavill was great though.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32715 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:44 am to
i alwasy kinda chuckle when i think about the ending. They fight all around Metropolis destroying hundreds of acres of the city, but when they finally come to a stop, it just so happens that they land right next to Lois.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37311 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:49 am to
quote:

On this board it may not be hated but its not highly regarded either.


Right so the premise is off.

But this is the 918th time people feel MoS or DC in general are "hated," "reviled," "disaster."

Hyperbole.

And there's this:
7.3/10-IMDb
56%-Rotten Tomatoes
55%-Metacritic

Not really great reactions from critics either.

quote:

I loved it bc it was finally a superman movie without the campiness. It was violent and kind of gritty.


There is a space between campy and "violent and gritty," that Superman can occupy. It took itself too seriously, which is part of the reason why the criticisms are quite valid. It THINKS it's a serious film with a great narrative arc and character development. But it doesn't end up that way.
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 7:52 am
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14422 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:58 am to
quote:

I suppose you ALWAYS do a thorough search before posting any topic.


Yes, I do. It's not that hard.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 8:09 am to
I'm just gonna wait until somebody posts something in this thread I just can't ignore.

Until then...
Posted by Bluefin
The Banana Stand
Member since Apr 2011
13260 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 8:13 am to
Michael Shannon was my favorite part of the film. He was excellent as Zod.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39736 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 8:22 am to
quote:

Michael Shannon
The guy is so awesome playing someone unhinged.

I love his Funny or Die bit where he is reading the Sorority Email.

Posted by SpqrTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
9269 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 8:50 am to
I think this is one of those movies that suffers from "they didn't do it the way I would do it."

Sometimes people feel ownership over iconic characters because of the importance they have in our lives and in society in general. There's a lot of pressure on filmmakers to "nail" iconic characters like Superman, the Star Wars crew and Indiana Jones on the big screen, when that goal is pretty much unattainable in the minds of some viewers.

I think that's where Man of Steel suffers. Not because it's not a good movie. It clearly is. I think it's not the movie that many viewers were picturing in their heads. Maybe they wanted a Superman who was a little more friendly and clever in his dialogue, or one that doesn't kill the super villain or they wanted more Clark Kent or something.

None of that matters to me, so I like Man of Steel. I'm sure if they made a Superman movie that focused on Clark and Lois and maintaining Clark's secret identity for 50% of the movie, some people would be into that. I would think it was lame as shite. But some critics would be all like... 4 stars! A fresh take on the dual identity of a superhero!

Pretty much every superhero movie has to deal with high expectations, but Superman draws the biggest spotlight. His legion of fans are nearly impossible to please, because they all want different things from a Superman movie.

Posted by TigerNutwhack
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
4136 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 8:59 am to
quote:

There is a space between campy and "violent and gritty," that Superman can occupy. It took itself too seriously, which is part of the reason why the criticisms are quite valid. It THINKS it's a serious film with a great narrative arc and character development. But it doesn't end up that way.


I think this was my major problem with the movie, and why it bored the hell out of me. It wasn't bad, it just took itself way too seriously. I'm not saying it has to be a campy superhero movie, but I didn't have any "fun" watching this movie. Perhaps that's a problem with my expectations, but I really wanted to like Man of Steel.

Zod was definitely the best character in the film.

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