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re: Why are the SW prequels fair game for criticism, but TFA somehow sacred?

Posted on 12/21/15 at 3:41 pm to
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60664 posts
Posted on 12/21/15 at 3:41 pm to
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And I think it's pretty telling that all of the smartest people on this board didn't care for the movie. I mean, almost to a man


this why people attack and accuse you of trolling, I mean if you didn't like the movie that's cool. If you laid out your complaints in a well thought out thread that's great, but when you insult people that did like it by basically calling them stupid, that is also rather telling.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86254 posts
Posted on 12/21/15 at 3:42 pm to
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Now you are just being a troll to be a troll. If you don't get that they were killing PEOPLE and governments while killing planets, then you need to put your helmet back on. DERP

Killing the sun would take quite a while to kill the planet no? Maybe long enough for all the people and the government to get off said planet? Good grief. More proof that you are a troll. Or just a moron, it could go either way.

Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 12/21/15 at 3:52 pm to
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People don't have to agree with me, but saying that I'm trolling is just incorrect.
horseshite. Once your thread got deleted, you threw a trolling temper tantrum.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60664 posts
Posted on 12/21/15 at 3:56 pm to
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Excellent points. If this had been the prequels or Lucas people would have been lambasting all these things, but suddenly it's Disney and JJ and they're supposed to be ignored?


there are much bigger problems with the prequels. I'm sorry, those were just a mess, the story was convoluted and mostly made no sense. You can say this was unoriginal, copied Star Wars, but at least it was pretty straight forward plot.

It sounds like some of you just have a problem with JJ Abrams. I didn't like it because it was Abrams and/ or Disney, I like it because i thought it was good, not because of them. it had flaws but they didn't bother me like it did you and BB apparently. I mean yeah a newer, bigger DS was kind of lame. Finn was just kind of there to me though i do agree he was kind of a "we need a black guy character" and if he does wind up a love interest for Rey it does smack of PC, but overall i enjoyed it, the positives outweigh the flaws.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
62601 posts
Posted on 12/21/15 at 3:57 pm to
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this why people attack and accuse you of trolling, I mean if you didn't like the movie that's cool. If you laid out your complaints in a well thought out thread that's great, but when you insult people that did like it by basically calling them stupid, that is also rather telling.
I admit that was just a joke.

But seriously, me, Fr33 and SFP's quiz bowl team would dominate.

I understand why my thread was deleted, but I started it to keep all of my negative comments away from the main thread. I mean, look at all of the downvotes in the OP of this thread. That's some serious Hunger Games shite right there, man.
Posted by TigerNutwhack
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
4235 posts
Posted on 12/21/15 at 4:00 pm to
The prequels are lambasted because they are bad movies that aren't fun to watch, so their flaws are even more magnified. TFA is a good movie, so it's flaws can be overlooked because the rest of the movie is enjoyable. It's pretty much as simple as that.

Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
62601 posts
Posted on 12/21/15 at 4:02 pm to
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horseshite. Once your thread got deleted, you threw a trolling temper tantrum.
No, I just posted the same critique in the main thread and people jumped up my arse.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 12/21/15 at 4:06 pm to
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I just posted the same critique in the main thread and people jumped up my arse.
And you responded by trolling. No reason to lie about it now.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
132973 posts
Posted on 12/21/15 at 4:15 pm to
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And you responded by trolling.





Disagreeing with someone isn't trolling. Even if they are vehement that because you don't agree with them you are an awful person and should kill yourself.

Having a different opinion isn't trolling either.

Just because someone doesn't participate in the groupthink (and I'm not a contrarian person overall.) doesn't mean they are a "troll"
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
107358 posts
Posted on 12/21/15 at 4:16 pm to
When you respond to every positive post with your same negative bullshite..yes. it's trolling.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 12/21/15 at 4:17 pm to
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Disagreeing with someone isn't trolling. Even if they are vehement that because you don't agree with them you are an awful person and should kill yourself.

Having a different opinion isn't trolling either.

Just because someone doesn't participate in the groupthink (and I'm not a contrarian person overall.) doesn't mean they are a "troll"
I'm not talking about having a differing opinion. I'm talking about blueboy trolling the big thread. I know the difference.

ETA: Clever picture, though. Got me good.
This post was edited on 12/21/15 at 4:22 pm
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60664 posts
Posted on 12/21/15 at 4:18 pm to
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I admit that was just a joke.

But seriously, me, Fr33 and SFP's quiz bowl team would dominate.



ha, i have aa couple of friends that liked it and could hold their own on quiz bowl.

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I understand why my thread was deleted, but I started it to keep all of my negative comments away from the main thread.


i think that's kind of lame, i guess i get they don't want 500 threads on the same topic, but going thru an 85 page thread is tiresome as well.

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I mean, look at all of the downvotes in the OP of this thread. That's some serious Hunger Games shite right there, man.


i don't look at the uv/dv thing but i think the title of this thread is just a strawman. if the op doesn't like it that's cool but the idea that if i didn't like the prequels i should not like this is nonsense.

there is a fine line sometimes between legit criticism and gratuitous bashing. SFP's comments i've seen are the former, while the op has tended toward the later imo.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
62601 posts
Posted on 12/21/15 at 4:21 pm to
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And you responded by trolling. No reason to lie about it now.
bullshite, and I have responded to people who have replied to me.

It's pretty arrogant to assume that just because someone disagrees with you, they must surely be trolling.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 12/21/15 at 4:22 pm to
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It's pretty arrogant to assume that just because someone disagrees with you, they must surely be trolling.

I don't think that at all. But you were trying to piss people off. It was clear as day. Not sure why you're denying it now.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86254 posts
Posted on 12/21/15 at 4:55 pm to
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I know the difference.
No, I don't think you do. Activity has little to do with trolling. A troll can be one post.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
62601 posts
Posted on 12/21/15 at 4:59 pm to
Forget it. He's just trolling.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49034 posts
Posted on 12/21/15 at 5:02 pm to
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And I think it's pretty telling that all of the smartest people on this board didn't care for the movie. I mean, almost to a man.




Is this where we whip out our IQs?
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49034 posts
Posted on 12/21/15 at 5:10 pm to
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The prequels are lambasted because they are bad movies that aren't fun to watch, so their flaws are even more magnified. TFA is a good movie, so it's flaws can be overlooked because the rest of the movie is enjoyable. It's pretty much as simple as that.


And the OT has plenty of flaws as well. ROTJ has many more flaws than TFA.

The Godfather has flaws. Citizen Kane has flaws. Now, I'm not comparing TFA to these two but the idea that a single portion of a plot being stretched or not completely fleshed out means a movie sucks then an unreasonable standard is created.

TFA is pretty great for what it attempts to be. And in the universe of Star Wars films, it's near the top - especially if you analyze it without the nostalgia factor added in for the OT.
This post was edited on 12/21/15 at 5:12 pm
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
132973 posts
Posted on 12/21/15 at 5:12 pm to
Captain Phasma:So cool she rules Star Wars


See, this is the shite I'm talking about.
Her character was awful, had no point, and did nothing at all cool or worthy of any praise besides having a vagina apparently.

This is easily Prequel level garbage but they are acting like it is some great addition.
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
24601 posts
Posted on 12/21/15 at 5:18 pm to
The new one is good and the prequels suck. It's not quantum physics.
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