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Posted on 4/3/14 at 10:30 pm to OMLandshark
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He's got exploding and electrocuting Batarangs, which I think would be pretty effective against him. It all depends on the environment. In a dark city, Batman destroys him. An open battlefield, I think Batman is killed. Plus Batman likely has other things in his arsenal to take him down.
I could see a scenario where if Batman is able to sneak around in the dark and surpise Cap, he could take him. But in an arena type environment, I don't think he stands much of a chance.
I know that Batman is used to fighting characters stronger than he is like Killer Croc and Clayface, but he can usually out smart the extremely strong villians. The only one that I would consider with a mind that's at Cap's level would be Bane, and Bane almost killed him. So unless Batman can take him totally by surpise, he would have a tough time taking out Cap.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 10:36 pm to Bamatab
yet batman defeated Bane many times who is probably similar in strength to Cap.
Batman has fought and trained with a demi-god in Superman. Why do debates go straight to powers? It's more about powers.
Let's compare it to sports (wait, nerd and sports, what?). Ali lost several fights he shouldnt have. Pure strength and stamina is not all it takes. Haters read Batman as purely "normal guy who can fight." Batman is way more dangerous that sir, yes, sir, Captain America.
It's a tough fight but Batman wins. Batman usually fights dirty as well to help give him an edge.
Batman has fought and trained with a demi-god in Superman. Why do debates go straight to powers? It's more about powers.
Let's compare it to sports (wait, nerd and sports, what?). Ali lost several fights he shouldnt have. Pure strength and stamina is not all it takes. Haters read Batman as purely "normal guy who can fight." Batman is way more dangerous that sir, yes, sir, Captain America.
It's a tough fight but Batman wins. Batman usually fights dirty as well to help give him an edge.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 10:48 pm to BlacknGold
Honestly, I'd give Batman an edge over superpowered characters over people like Captain America. For instance, if the Justice League were to face off against the Avengers, I'd say that Batman would be far stand the best chance against the Hulk. Just beating the Hulk wouldn't do much, but beating him psychologically would. If Batman has non-lethal Joker Venom on him, I think that's all it would take to beat the Hulk.
This post was edited on 4/3/14 at 10:51 pm
Posted on 4/3/14 at 10:49 pm to ZacAttack
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Oh, and what version of each character are we talking? Is this the real Batman or the shitty version that for some reason was able to defeat every super hero that ever lived. Also, do they know each other ahead of time? Which version of Captain America are we talking, obscure Omega level powers Captain America or the Captain America that everybody is familiar with? And what reference source will we be using for determining each ones ability?
A+
This post was edited on 4/3/14 at 10:50 pm
Posted on 4/3/14 at 10:53 pm to Muahahaha
Cap.
His super serum helps him heal faster and when we last saw the bat Alfred had quit so there is no one to sew his arse up after a fight.
His super serum helps him heal faster and when we last saw the bat Alfred had quit so there is no one to sew his arse up after a fight.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 10:56 pm to Muahahaha
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Posted on 4/3/14 at 11:01 pm to BlacknGold
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yet batman defeated Bane many times who is probably similar in strength to Cap.
And Bane beat Batman, not necessarily a good argument either way.
quote:Captain America fought and trained with a God in Thor.
Batman has fought and trained with a demi-god in Superman.
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Why do debates go straight to powers? It's more about powers.
Of course it is.
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Let's compare it to sports (wait, nerd and sports, what?). Ali lost several fights he shouldnt have. Pure strength and stamina is not all it takes. Haters read Batman as purely "normal guy who can fight." Batman is way more dangerous that sir, yes, sir, Captain America.
So Batman is more than just a "normal guy who can fight," but Captain America is just "sir, yes sir?"
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It's a tough fight but Batman wins. Batman usually fights dirty as well to help give him an edge.
It's a tough fight, but with no "lasers, fire, etc." this one goes down to blows. And you go with the guy who can take and give the most punishment. And that's easily Cap. No question.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 11:02 pm to OMLandshark
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Honestly, I'd give A Plot Device an edge over superpowered characters over people like Captain America. For instance, if the Justice League were to face off against the Avengers, I'd say that a Plot Device would be far stand the best chance against the Hulk. Just beating the Hulk wouldn't do much, but beating him psychologically would. If a Plot Device has non-lethal Plot Devices on him, I think that's all it would take to beat the Hulk.
FIFY
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Posted on 4/3/14 at 11:03 pm to Freauxzen
Not to mention cap trained with the rest of the adventures and
Hulk smash-Puny god.
Hulk smash-Puny god.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 11:04 pm to Freauxzen
Didn't batman create ways to take down the other members of the justice league in case he ever needed to.
Superman-kryptnite bullet and the others.
Superman-kryptnite bullet and the others.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 11:07 pm to Muahahaha
I thought this was a troll..
Batman would mind frick CA, and there would never even be a physical altercation. That shield would be a lazy suzan spinning in Wayne manor dinning hall before CA could even jump on a grenade. CA has a depth of moral code, Bats only has one rule.
If it got to a physical altercation, the only way CA stands a chance in hell is if its a surprise meeting and Bats has never known about CA. Even at that point CA would need to catch him in a very weakened state like Bane did.
Batman would mind frick CA, and there would never even be a physical altercation. That shield would be a lazy suzan spinning in Wayne manor dinning hall before CA could even jump on a grenade. CA has a depth of moral code, Bats only has one rule.
If it got to a physical altercation, the only way CA stands a chance in hell is if its a surprise meeting and Bats has never known about CA. Even at that point CA would need to catch him in a very weakened state like Bane did.
This post was edited on 4/3/14 at 11:10 pm
Posted on 4/3/14 at 11:14 pm to schexyoung
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Batman would mind frick CA, and there would never even be a physical altercation.
Cap is maybe the most level-headed and consistent comic book character out there. Batman's little games wouldn't really work.
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If it got to a physical altercation, the only way CA stands a chance in hell is if its a surprise meeting and Bats has never known about CA. Even at that point CA would need to catch him in a very weakened state like Bane did.
Black Panther is one of Marvel's best pure fighters. The rich guy has the time to study every martial art:
Cap stomped BP a few pages later.
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This post was edited on 4/3/14 at 11:16 pm
Posted on 4/3/14 at 11:15 pm to Freauxzen
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FIFY
Would you not say that is a very feasible way of taking down the Hulk?
Posted on 4/3/14 at 11:21 pm to Freauxzen
Wow... I know Black Panther is Marvel's attempt at a Batman type character, but I never thought someone with as much comic depth as you have Freaux would equate BP to the MFBATMAN.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 11:23 pm to schexyoung
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Wow... I know Black Panther is Marvel's attempt at a Batman type character, but I never thought someone with as much comic depth as you have Freaux would equate BP to the MFBATMAN.
I didn't equate BP to Batman, just look at what BP says. Meaning, "BP is an excellent fighter, this is what he thinks about Cap."Posted on 4/3/14 at 11:35 pm to Freauxzen
this isnt a gladiator fight like the other thread. those circumstances never happen. this is a "real world" comic book encounter. do you think Batman would allow himself to be drawn into a fight where he doesnt have the upper hand? Cap gives orders as well as takes them.
As I said Batman fights dirtier than Cap. Bats would make sure he has every tactical advantage before engaging with a super soldier. This aint the arena. It would be a cold, dark street fight. I pick the Knight.
As I said Batman fights dirtier than Cap. Bats would make sure he has every tactical advantage before engaging with a super soldier. This aint the arena. It would be a cold, dark street fight. I pick the Knight.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 11:42 pm to BlacknGold
Agreed. Batman never fights fair, and his mind would would work circles around CA. The instances where Batman doesn't have a pre-arranged upper hand are few and far between.
CA is a great leader and would contribute in a more material manner where he has a team to lead.
CA is a great leader and would contribute in a more material manner where he has a team to lead.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 11:46 pm to schexyoung
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and his mind would would work circles around CA
Batman may have greater raw intelligence and detective skills, but CA is every bit as informed in terms of tactical ability.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 11:54 pm to Matisyeezy
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