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Posted on 9/12/24 at 9:34 am to grizzlylongcut
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Arthur Dayne (maybe too long before Drogo’s time though)
I thought he was about the same age as Ser Barristan.
Drogo didn't wear armor. So, all those cats from Westeros with their roughly 13th/14th Century European gear would have likely handled him, particularly the list of elite fighters you posted. Probably not late year Robert or one-handed Jaime. Maybe not Jon Snow.
But, the Mountain, the Hound, even old arse Ser Barristan, Bronn, the Red Viper? Yeah. Relatively straightforward, although Drogo would have been a handful.
Posted on 9/12/24 at 9:40 am to Hu_Flung_Pu
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I think grey worm and the unsullied are overrated tbh.
They represent a combination of things - the "old way" (phalangites) pre-Roman infantry style with a smattering of medieval peasantry/militia (but professional, again, like Macedon or, probably most intended to be a slave version of Spartiates). They would quite intentionally not be individual fighters, but fight as a unit, as a whole.
It would not be appropriate for this talk unless they had a hero figure like Perseus of Achilles (which Grey Worm definitely wasn't).
This post was edited on 9/12/24 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 9/12/24 at 12:06 pm to Ace Midnight
The Red Viper is beating everyone 1 on 1. Well unless you killed his sister and then he will decide to showboat and pay for it.
Posted on 9/12/24 at 12:47 pm to grizzlylongcut
Has there been a GoT "Battle of the Badasses" tournament on this board? I feel like there needs to be after reading this thread. I for one, am not capable of starting it, so someone get on that shite!
Posted on 9/12/24 at 1:37 pm to SG_Geaux
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Prime Jaime mops the floor with Drogo.
And what's the reasoning on that?
Posted on 9/12/24 at 2:07 pm to Homey the Clown
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Has there been a GoT "Battle of the Badasses" tournament on this board? I feel like there needs to be after reading this thread. I for one, am not capable of starting it, so someone get on that shite!
Think that would be short. Oberyn likely wins. Skilled enough to kill the mountain easily and dirty enough to kill non knights
Posted on 9/12/24 at 2:24 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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And what's the reasoning on that?
He has armor/shield
He is good at fighting others with armor/shields
When the show starts, isn't it widely accepted that when the show starts, he's either #1 or 2 (depending on what Selmy has left) in Westeros?
But, regardless, you have to go way down the line of knights (in full armor) to get to one that Drogo could kill. It's just a huge advantage.
Posted on 9/12/24 at 2:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
Yeah Jamie is supposed to be basically a prodigy when he had both hands. He’d make Drogo stew with a quickness
Posted on 9/12/24 at 2:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
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When the show starts, isn't it widely accepted that when the show starts, he's either #1 or 2 (depending on what Selmy has left) in Westeros?
Rhaegar was one of the best until the Ruby Ford, where Robert bested him. At that point, Arthur Dayne and Selmy were probably the best (and this was by acclaim and Jaime's assessment, and he was their brother in the King's Guard.) Even though old, Selmy was still considered the best of the King's Guard at the time of his dismissal. Jaime was considered the next best swordsman in Westeros before he lost his right hand.
Posted on 9/12/24 at 2:43 pm to SlowFlowPro
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He has armor/shield
He is good at fighting others with armor/shields
I mean he is not fighting with armor and a shield all the time. Not sure why the situation has to have him fighting with armor and shield. When he fought Ned Stark (didn't mop the floor with Ned) he was in rather plain clothes.
Other times he was wearing clothes that weren't as protective and he certainly didn't carry around a shield at all times.
When he was beaten by Robb Stark's army (the losses actually tally up pretty high for Jamie), he was wearing more of his traditional fighting gear. Armored, but not crazy protected.
Not sure why the situation has to be "Jamie Lannister in full kings guard atire plus a shield". If Jamie rolls up on Drogo like he did Ned Stark in Kings Landing, he sure as hell ain't moping the the floor with him. Khal Drogo had a body count.
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When the show starts, isn't it widely accepted that when the show starts, he's either #1 or 2 (depending on what Selmy has left) in Westeros?
We don't really ever see peak Jamie. We don't see Jamie really win that much at all actually. He loses more often than not in the show. The best account we have for Jamie is in the books when Selmy says he is the most talented he'd seen since some else that I can't think of and it's driving me nuts.
Plus you have GRRM saying Jamie is one of the best knights in all of Westeros. A prime Selmy is for sure better than Jamie. Hell even the Hound beat Jamie in a joust. There's no reason to think that Drogo couldn't get quite a few times out of 100, much less Jamie beating him 99% of the time. This post was edited on 9/12/24 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 9/12/24 at 2:54 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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Not sure why the situation has to be "Jamie Lannister in full kings guard atire plus a shield". If Jamie rolls up on Drogo like he did Ned Stark in Kings Landing, he sure as hell ain't moping the the floor with him. Khal Drogo had a body count.
I mean I don’t see a scenario in that Jamie would be having a casual convo with Khal Drogo like he was with Ned there
If he’s rolling up on khal drogo, he’s going to suit up
Also Robb Stark didn’t beat Jamie, he specially chose not to fight him 1 on 1 because “if we fought, you’d win”
Jamie was leading the much smaller army and Robb tricked the lannisters and surprised his regiment when they were expecting the charge to go to the main base being run by Tywin. He beat him with military strategy, not fighting
Posted on 9/12/24 at 3:15 pm to wildtigercat93
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I mean I don’t see a scenario in that Jamie would be having a casual convo with Khal Drogo like he was with Ned there
If he’s rolling up on khal drogo, he’s going to suit up
Ok, so if the two fight 100 times (which is what I was originally replying to, that Jamie doesn't win 99 times), all 100 of them are just perfect scenarios for Jamie where he's in max protect armor plus a shield. None of the settings ever favor Khal Drogo. Got it.
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Also Robb Stark didn’t beat Jamie, he specially chose not to fight him 1 on 1 because “if we fought, you’d win”
Jamie was leading the much smaller army and Robb tricked the lannisters and surprised his regiment when they were expecting the charge to go to the main base being run by Tywin. He beat him with military strategy, not fighting
Edited my post, meant Robb's army. I know all of that. The point was what he was wearing, not whether he could beat Robb 1v1.. He wasn't in the battlefield in Kingsguard armor/fighting in armor that would always protect him from a blow from Drogo.
Jamie was known to be a gifted fighter at a young age. But it was mainly tournaments. Drogo was considered gifted among the Dothraki as a warrior at a young age. He was battle tested young and had a 40k army before he was 30.
Also this...
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In battle, Drogo is known for his savagery, brutality, and lack of relent or remorse to his opponents. The fearsome khal had never been defeated in combat and because of this his braid reached down below his waist. Indeed, Drogo was ruthless in battle and highly skilled, able to kill an armed man in seconds flat with just his bare hands.
Just saying, yall are severey underrated Drogo
Posted on 9/12/24 at 4:03 pm to SG_Geaux
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Conan
Drogo wipes the floor with Conan O'Brien.
Posted on 9/12/24 at 4:11 pm to grizzlylongcut
Most likely
Would definitely. . .unless it was hand-to-hand:
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Robert Baratheon
Mountain
Would definitely. . .unless it was hand-to-hand:
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Jon Snow
Jaime Lannister (2-hand variety)
Posted on 9/12/24 at 4:21 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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But her win over the Hound was still impressive even if he wasn't full health.
He was battling a pretty damn bad infection and was trashed. I wouldn’t call it that impressive. Especially considering in the books they didn’t fight if I recall.
Posted on 9/12/24 at 4:44 pm to grizzlylongcut
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He was battling a pretty damn bad infection and was trashed
Like I said, he wasn't fully healthy.
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I wouldn’t call it that impressive
Beating one of the baddest dudes on the planet straight up is for sure impressive. Regardless if he's 100%.
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Especially considering in the books they didn’t fight if I recall.
They didn't. His (possible) death was just from an injury from a tavern fight. Kind of anti climatic. Actually something the show did a little better job of imo. The fight between Brienne and the Hound was pretty bad arse.
And you're still ignoring her beating Loras straight up.
I mean GRRM himself said if he could choose two people to be on his Kingsguard it would be Jamie and Brienne. Hard to argue with the author of the story I mean you asked who else, you just don't want to put a chick on there
Posted on 9/12/24 at 4:56 pm to grizzlylongcut
Syrio Forel
Posted on 9/12/24 at 5:20 pm to iwyLSUiwy
Brienne. Drogo would underestimate her and by the time he adjusted, it would be over.
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