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Which Was Worse? TLJ or The Star Wars Christmas Special?
Posted on 12/18/17 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 12/18/17 at 12:31 pm
For those that have not had a chance to see this little gem, take a look before casting your vote.
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Posted on 12/18/17 at 12:32 pm to CU_Tigers4life
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TLJ
TLJ
The Christmas special was goofy and it knew it. TLJ was bad but thought it was groundbreaking.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 12:32 pm to CU_Tigers4life
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This post was edited on 5/27/23 at 8:27 pm
Posted on 12/18/17 at 12:34 pm to CU_Tigers4life
ok, well Im done with this board for awhile. Its fricking pathetic now. I'll come back when the bleeding is done.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 12:35 pm to The Godfather
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ok, well Im done with this board for awhile. Its fricking pathetic now. I'll come back when the bleeding is done.
No one says "Laser Swords" in the Christmas Special, therefore it is automatically better.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 12:38 pm to Freauxzen
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The Christmas special was goofy and it knew it. TLJ was bad but thought it was groundbreaking.
This, I can watch the Star Wars Christmas Special and laugh at it. TLJ had a major Maoist subplot that is trying to indoctrinate kids. At least when Lucas more subtly did it, he had a good quote to go with it and it surprisingly fitting to go along with how the critics responded to The Last Jedi:
"So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause."
Posted on 12/18/17 at 12:38 pm to Freauxzen
A Laser is light.
A sword is a saber.
Laser sword = lightsaber
A sword is a saber.
Laser sword = lightsaber
Posted on 12/18/17 at 12:38 pm to CU_Tigers4life
I actually liked the Christmas Special
Posted on 12/18/17 at 12:39 pm to Freauxzen
When you factor in how much was spent on it, I would say TLJ.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 12:40 pm to AggieDub14
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AggieDub14
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A Laser is light. A sword is a saber. Laser sword = lightsaber
If ANYONE knows about sword fighting, its an aggie. So, I'm going to accept this explanation
Posted on 12/18/17 at 12:41 pm to AggieDub14
quote:
A Laser is light.
A sword is a saber.
Laser sword = lightsaber
The whole point of the Space Opera is to play it completely straight. Everyone has to buy into it. As soon as you start breaking the 4th wall and playing into the real life jokes people say or the colloquialisms that come from it into daily life, you ruin that.
The laser swords comment was just that.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 12:41 pm to AggieDub14
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A Laser is light.
A sword is a saber.
Laser sword = lightsabe
I hate you.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 12:42 pm to CU_Tigers4life
TLJ. 2 years waiting for questions to be answered that were not delivered. Characters that have 40 years of history and development thrown out the window. Characters that did not get developed and no training of the ones with the Force. Absurd dialogue and plot. Overall mess that did not feel like a Star Wars movie.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 12:42 pm to fr33manator
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I actually liked the Christmas Special
I did too when I was a kid. The Christmas Special is pure, goofy 80's product exploitation. Some of it can be charming.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 12:43 pm to Freauxzen
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The laser swords comment was just that.
No it isn't.
The Jedi in the prequels were all raised in the temple. They all speak in a very formal tone because of their upbringing. Luke was raised on a farm. He has been isolated for a period of time. He doesn't give a shite about formalities.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 12:54 pm to AggieDub14
I've avoided any spoilers so far, and I probably won't see TLJ until next week when I am off from work for the rest of the year.
That said, and without spoiling anything about the story:
-What is the source of everyone's frustration/resentment/general pissiness regarding this movie?
A) the story didn't play out the way they had hoped?
B) the mechanics of the movie in general were bad (i.e. editing, storytelling, etc ala Batman v Superman)?
C) SJW fluff being forced upon the viewer?
D) other?
That said, and without spoiling anything about the story:
-What is the source of everyone's frustration/resentment/general pissiness regarding this movie?
A) the story didn't play out the way they had hoped?
B) the mechanics of the movie in general were bad (i.e. editing, storytelling, etc ala Batman v Superman)?
C) SJW fluff being forced upon the viewer?
D) other?
Posted on 12/18/17 at 12:56 pm to VinegarStrokes
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A) the story didn't play out the way they had hoped?
To say the story goes in an unexpected direction is an understatement.
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B) the mechanics of the movie in general were bad (i.e. editing, storytelling, etc ala Batman v Superman)?
Plotholes to the extreme. It's also one of the worst edited blockbusters I've ever seen. A fan could (and almost certainly will) do better.
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C) SJW fluff being forced upon the viewer?
Biggest in a mainstream film I can think of in a while. It really goes into Maoism territory.
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D) other?
All of the above
This post was edited on 12/18/17 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 12/18/17 at 1:33 pm to OMLandshark
yikes...
Thank you for the concise response. There are no less than 10-15 Star Wars threads on the first page at any given time, and I cannot open any of them for fear of being spoiled. I appreciate your ability to summarize the general consensus without giving anything away.
Thank you for the concise response. There are no less than 10-15 Star Wars threads on the first page at any given time, and I cannot open any of them for fear of being spoiled. I appreciate your ability to summarize the general consensus without giving anything away.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 1:42 pm to VinegarStrokes
I enjoyed the movie.
That being said,
B.
There was too much conflict. Entire plot lines could be cut and the movie still makes sense.
God armor for the main characters.
Those are my main issues.
That being said,
B.
There was too much conflict. Entire plot lines could be cut and the movie still makes sense.
God armor for the main characters.
Those are my main issues.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 1:54 pm to VinegarStrokes
Without giving anything away at all I think the bigger issue is that George Lucas is a Storyteller first and Disney is a corporation. Lucas did things to make the story better from his viewpoint and Disney is all about the "Benjamins"..The story for Disney is not as important and the $$$$$.
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