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re: What was the stupidest thing about final seasons of GOT?

Posted on 11/25/25 at 9:29 am to
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 9:29 am to
the faith people have in GRRM to wrap up the booking a satisfying way when all he’s done so far is kill off major characters and create loose ends is amazing

Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 9:41 am to
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the faith people have in GRRM to wrap up the booking a satisfying way when all he’s done so far is kill off major characters and create loose ends is amazing


Who is saying that? I despise the dude and don't think he will even finish WOW before he dies, much less 7. But if Bran was his ending, fine, I do know he'd get there better than the showrunners did. That's not saying much.
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 9:42 am to
He may get there but there is no ending with Bran as king that doesn’t suck

GRRm probably threw out 7000 pages when everyone hated that ending
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 9:46 am to
Yea i don't disagree. I hate that that ending. But he would at least arc it in a way that it would make sense. Who are all these people you are amazed at that have so much faith in GRRM?
Posted by BhamTigah
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 10:19 am to
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But if Bran was his ending, fine, I do know he'd get there better than the showrunners did.


Well, he definitely wouldn't rush it.
Posted by BitBuster
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 10:37 am to
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Eh. Close nuff


Sorry. I mixed it up because I got all worked up over the Arya thing. Brought up some old shite.

I mean... I'd rather Jon Snow become the freaking new Night King - true king of the north- and THEN do war with Dany. Basically any scenario I can draw up taking a dump while typing on my phone is better than one they spent years crafting.

Edit again. Imagine if Dany's zombie dragon, that scene. Jon gets taken by the white walkers, becomes king of the white walkers. Gets the zombie ice dragon, then does battle with Dany. That woulda been cool.
This post was edited on 11/25/25 at 10:40 am
Posted by Broken Coyote
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 10:42 am to
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Dany going insane.


Even if JRR Martin original vision was for her to take the mad (queen) route, which we will never know because Martin is a lazy bastard, the sudden transformation of Deanerys from breaker of chains into a petty psychopath was the greatest injustice to fans and TV shows in history. I still get pissed when think about it.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 10:52 am to
The fact that John Snow being the prince who was promised meant absolutely nothing.
Posted by MFn GIMP
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 11:22 am to
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at hardhome the wights wouldn’t get in the water, and they just watched Jon sail away. But when the dragon hit the water, the wights dove in and secured the dragon with no issues at all.

To be fair wights/undead not being able to cross, or enter, running water - which the waters at hardhome would've been - is a big part of wight mythology. It was idiotic, and probably the 2nd worst episode of the series, but the wights being able to dive into the lake north of the wall does track with real world mythology about them.
Posted by RemouladeSawce
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 11:47 am to
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Dany going insane. She made it through exile, forced marriage, rape, miscarriage, widowhood, etc. and came out stronger each time but the final nail in the coffin for her sanity was that no one talked to her at a party? It's absolutely absurd
I think the final nail would have been Missandei’s execution

I don’t have issue with her turning mad and I believe it was GRRM’s intent. The pacing of the devolution was just too absurd
Posted by southpawcock
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 11:58 am to
The Night King not having the foresight to see his lame fricking death after being built up for the entire series.
Posted by PrattvilleTiger
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 8:36 am to
What is he doing? Seems like he could hire a writer to finish it for him.
Posted by TigerMyth36
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 3:59 pm to
Bran has to be the worst.

If everyone 100% believed he could see the past present and future, I could see them agreeing but my problem is the way Bran was portrayed as disinterested in day to day life and then suddenly he wants to be King.

Hell the previous Raven didn't move for so long he became part of the tree.

LINK

Everything he said.
Posted by Laugh More
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 4:05 pm to
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Dany going insane. She made it through exile, forced marriage, rape, miscarriage, widowhood, etc. and came out stronger each time


My theory on this and what would probably be told/shown in MUCH more detail would be that since she was a Targaryen, the closer she got to the throne, the crazier she becomes.

But what do I know…the fat man doesn’t seem to know either
Posted by JoeyP239
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Posted on 11/28/25 at 10:49 pm to
The dumbest thing was Littlefinger dying the way he did. It would have been a far more appropriate and juicy ending to have Littlefinger turn Sansa evil (or perhaps Sansa turns evil after being raped by Ramsey) and have them join up together, with perhaps Arya realizing she needs to take out her own sister to restore the Kingdom.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 11/29/25 at 7:27 pm to
Posting this again as I have done if a million of these threads over the years.

The final season had a lot of issues and this suggestion does not switch them all, HOWEVER

If you flip the events and have them attack Kings Landing/ deal with Cersei / Dany goes crazy first.

Then you end the series with them defeating the night king.

The final season ends up a whole lot better, still plenty of issues, but much much better.
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