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re: What Do You Think Is The Most Overrated Film?
Posted on 3/6/18 at 12:54 pm to SaturdayTraditions
Posted on 3/6/18 at 12:54 pm to SaturdayTraditions
Apparently Get Out and Black Panther are the two best movies ever made. I haven't seen Get Out but I kinda doubt its that good. Black Panther is mid tier Marvel at best.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 1:20 pm to Baloo
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So I'll use the imdb 250 as a guide of where films fit in the general heirarchy:
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A good chunk of that Top 25 is way overrated.
Leave Godfather I/II, Seven Samurai, A New Hope, TGTBTU, ESB, The Matrix, City of God, and It's a Wonderful Life. The rest....all overrated.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 1:34 pm to SaturdayTraditions
The English Patient
Posted on 3/6/18 at 2:20 pm to etm512
Fellowship of the Ring is an amazing, immersive flick. It should have easily won Best Picture. You can rewatch it today and the special effects, especially in the Shire, still hold up.
Two Towers is a big old slog through 2 hours, then an hour long battle, which is okay if that's your thing. This one is EASILY the most overrated.
Return of the King is just so goddamn long, and the fake endings are a legitimate gripe. For story purists, it's some real bullshite that you don't see Sam, Gimli, and Legolas make their way to the West at the end. I thought they gave Eowyn and the Nazgul, Sam and Frodo on Mt Doom, and King Elessar their rightful due.
Two Towers is a big old slog through 2 hours, then an hour long battle, which is okay if that's your thing. This one is EASILY the most overrated.
Return of the King is just so goddamn long, and the fake endings are a legitimate gripe. For story purists, it's some real bullshite that you don't see Sam, Gimli, and Legolas make their way to the West at the end. I thought they gave Eowyn and the Nazgul, Sam and Frodo on Mt Doom, and King Elessar their rightful due.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 2:24 pm to SaturdayTraditions
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The Big Lebowski
It has to be up there. It's OK but I've watched it twice and don't understand the cult appeal.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 2:26 pm to Muthsera
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Return of the King is just so goddamn long, and the fake endings are a legitimate gripe.
It’s an 11 hour film really. I think it deserves 30 minutes to wrap it up.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 2:32 pm to Packer
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Scarface
This. Decided to watch it for the first time recently and thought it was very shitty for all the hype aroud it.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 2:38 pm to SaturdayTraditions
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What do you think is the most overrated film?
There Will Be Blood.
Followed closely by the original Blade Runner.
This post was edited on 3/6/18 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 3/6/18 at 2:40 pm to Baloo
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I think you start out with this question: What movies are rated? So I'll use the imdb 250 as a guide of where films fit in the general heirarchy:
LINK
I enjoy the Lord of the Rings movies but I have no idea how they are viewed as a consensus top 20 product.
I respect Jackson's expertise in bringing the product to the screen and the way that Gollum was brought to life was a milestone in film IMO. But I just don't think it compares to a lot of movies with lesser production values but better stories.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 2:43 pm to SaturdayTraditions
If James Dean doesn't die, nobody is talking about this film.
And I love, love love Natalie Wood.
But the movie is a tremendous bore. The premise is so paper thin it would be laughed at today. It's not even a 1/10th of a John Hughes teenage angst film.
And...
Another giant bore. Way too long, scenes drag on forever. It's an Ambien. Cimino was a fraud.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 2:43 pm to molsusports
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I enjoy the Lord of the Rings movies but I have no idea how they are viewed as a consensus top 20 product.
I respect Jackson's expertise in bringing the product to the screen and the way that Gollum was brought to life was a milestone in film IMO. But I just don't think it compares to a lot of movies with lesser production values but better stories.
The Lord of the Rings was probably the most ambitious film project since Lawrence of Arabia. The behind the scenes of making it was an incredible just in and of itself. The fact that it was made respectful of the source material is really nothing less than a miracle.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 2:49 pm to Pettifogger
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If your point is that it's such an afterthought it's no longer overrated, I can probably agree to that.
But it was massively hyped and widely celebrated, and the fact that now nobody even thinks about it is a sign it was exceptionally overrated at the outset.
It was "Dances With Wolves" made with blue people.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 2:56 pm to molsusports
And to separate out the downvotes that post will get from the downvotes that this post will get I'll add a highly beloved movie on this board:
The Godfather part II
I think the first one might be the best movie ever made but the second one has a lot of elements that leave me unsatisfied with the way the writer/director tampered with the characters to placate the criticism the first movie received.
A huge part of the first Godfather was the love enjoyed by and multi-dimensional nature of the characters. When you alter your movie to make the evil less human and filter out the elements of that evil that were touched upon in wider society by the first movie (common people, police, and especially politicians) you compromise the quality of your moral commentary too much to make it valuable.
There are great elements in the movie for sure. Deniro was wonderful as the young Don, John Cazale turned in one of the greatest performances on film period. The use of the sepia film was beautiful. But the way the characters and story were manipulated in response to the criticisms made of the first film greatly diminishes it as an artistic product. I also really despise the darkness that overwhelmed the "modern" scenes. This was not like film noir. Film noir is like drawing with a white pencil on a black canvass. The Pacino study was filmed as if it were drawn by Claude Monet. Compare that to the brilliant life and colors of the first and it too left me deeply disappointed.
The Godfather part II
I think the first one might be the best movie ever made but the second one has a lot of elements that leave me unsatisfied with the way the writer/director tampered with the characters to placate the criticism the first movie received.
A huge part of the first Godfather was the love enjoyed by and multi-dimensional nature of the characters. When you alter your movie to make the evil less human and filter out the elements of that evil that were touched upon in wider society by the first movie (common people, police, and especially politicians) you compromise the quality of your moral commentary too much to make it valuable.
There are great elements in the movie for sure. Deniro was wonderful as the young Don, John Cazale turned in one of the greatest performances on film period. The use of the sepia film was beautiful. But the way the characters and story were manipulated in response to the criticisms made of the first film greatly diminishes it as an artistic product. I also really despise the darkness that overwhelmed the "modern" scenes. This was not like film noir. Film noir is like drawing with a white pencil on a black canvass. The Pacino study was filmed as if it were drawn by Claude Monet. Compare that to the brilliant life and colors of the first and it too left me deeply disappointed.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 3:00 pm to OMLandshark
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I enjoy the Lord of the Rings movies but I have no idea how they are viewed as a consensus top 20 product.
I respect Jackson's expertise in bringing the product to the screen and the way that Gollum was brought to life was a milestone in film IMO. But I just don't think it compares to a lot of movies with lesser production values but better stories.
The Lord of the Rings was probably the most ambitious film project since Lawrence of Arabia. The behind the scenes of making it was an incredible just in and of itself. The fact that it was made respectful of the source material is really nothing less than a miracle.
I agree with all of that. But I think most of the praise it receives relates to people's innate understanding of how difficult it was to accomplish what Jackson brought to the screen more than how good the film was as its own product.
By means of comparison I would also argue 12 Angry Man is enormously better than Cleopatra.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 3:04 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Meet the Parents.
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