re: Westworld S01 E09: "The Well-Tempered Clavier"

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I also think it is possible that if Dolores became "conscience" back then, she may have chose to end it all because she didn't like her and the other hosts existence.

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Whose conscience, though?

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Elsie was on the phone with Bernard right before she was taken. Bernard was with Theresa. I'm telling y'all. She was taken by the real Arnold.

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No. Bernard saw a flashback of him choking Elsie.

Seeing as they've already picked it up for season 2 I can't help but think you're wrong.

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Yes, when they cut her open, there were gears, but she is the oldest remaining host in the park. She should contain gears.

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Didn't Thor's brother say that she's been rebuilt so many times she's practically brand new in the first episode. I took that to mean she is presently constructed of synthetic flesh and bone just like the newer hosts.

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I know what the "flashback" showed. But how much can we believe of those things when half of them are wrong? See Teddy.

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Ford had no reason to hide or alter the truth this time. He either expected Bernarnold to get on board or blow his brains out.

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still don't see how any of that proves that William and the Man in Black don't occupy the same temporal space

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You're ignoring the picture of William's fiancé. It's the same picture the original Abernathy, Dolores's father, found in the pasture that led to him going crazy and giving her the "these violent delights have violent ends" trigger phrase. That picture couldn't be in Logan's jacket AND buried in the dirt at the Abernathy ranch at the same time.

I want to go back and see if the pistol Dolores finds in the dirt is William's original gun.

ETA: or maybe you're trying to say that MiB's story is happening 30 years ago too, even though he's been going to the park for 30 years? Because that makes soooooo much sense

I'll shorten it up but this is some good reddit work that breaks it down with quotes and the episodes they are from.

Westworld Timeline

Time Period 1: 30-37 Years Prior to Current Events
The Glorious Early Days (34-37 years ago)
Dolores & Arnold's Sessions (34-36 years ago)
The Massacre in Sweetwater and the Town with the White Church/Escalante (30-34 years ago)

Time Period 2: 30 Years Prior to Current Events
Dolores & William (30 years ago)

Time Period 3: 1 Year Prior to Current Events
Maeve & the Man in Black (1 year ago)

Time Period 4: Current Events

Has anybody addressed the question of how the MIB was the same age as he is in present time when he killed Maeve and her daughter? I am off work this Friday and I'm going to binge watch the first 9 episodes. I am so confused about so many things. I seriously doubt the season finale will answer all that many questions. I appreciate y'all a lot for your insight though.

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Has anybody addressed the question of how the MIB was the same age as he is in present time when he killed Maeve and her daughter?

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That was explained when MiB was tied up and talking to Teddy and the blonde host. The prairie scene with Maeve and her child was no more than a couple years ago. It was what set him on his current quest.

*Looks like I was too slow on the draw, so to speak.

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Has anybody addressed the question of how the MIB was the same age as he is in present time when he killed Maeve and her daughter? I am off work this Friday and I'm going to binge watch the first 9 episodes. I am so confused about so many things. I seriously doubt the season finale will answer all that many questions. I appreciate y'all a lot for your insight though.

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Yea that was only 1 year ago and some change. Felix and them mention that during an episode and so does the MiB.