re: Westworld S01 E09: "The Well-Tempered Clavier"

Gronk is a host?!

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It's the same picture the original Abernathy, Dolores's father, found in the pasture that led to him going crazy and giving her the "these violent delights have violent ends" trigger phrase.

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I have remained skeptical (but never dismissive) of the alternate timelines - but more recently Delores' memory fragments are highly jarring - and, the photo (almost conclusively) proves that however small a bit of time it may have been, that "loop" happened prior to the Abernathy going batshit crazy loop.

SO - this is where I'm at - William was set to marry Logan's sister - MiB just mentioned 30 years of marriage - looking more like we're seeing MiB at the beginning of his journey, and not in the present.

As for Logan - he seemed to have been going there for some time before taking William, but it could have been a couple of trips a year for 3 or 4 years - that would have been more than enough to make him a veteran compared to William. William married into the company, ultimately took it over and became very rich - now he's on the board of Delos - is playing his own game (to reach Arnold - whatever that means), but at the same time is part of the park takeover adverse to Ford.

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Yes, when they cut her open, there were gears, but she is the oldest remaining host in the park. She should contain gears.

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Why should she in the present day? She is AI. They aren't attached to bodies like humans. The only thing that matters is their unique code.

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Anybody else think that the Delos Corporation got its start in the 3-d printing of body tissue?

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That is plausible because remember when that other guest told the MIB that his company "did great work for humanity and helping people". When the MIB told that guest to leave him alone or he would slit his throat?

When they wake up in the morning and all the hosts are ripped to shreds, you also see their ligaments open and it's old machinery. That is clearly an old timeline

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When they wake up in the morning and all the hosts are ripped to shreds, you also see their ligaments open and it's old machinery. That is clearly an old timeline

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My only argument with this is that when they blew up the body with nitro there were not machine parts that went flying. It reacted as if it was a normal human body.

I'm probably reading way to much into it, but the show prides itself on small details and that would be a bad oversight if they are using this now.

But what about at the end whenever she's wearing the same clothes that she has on with William when she meets the mib. She also whispers William under her breath before the door opens but them gasps when she sees it's the mib. There may be 2 time frames, but I believe we've been seeing mostly a flashback that have both William and the mib in it since about episode 1 or 2. I believe we will be brought to present time soon though because they've finished finding the maze which was the end of the flashback or close to it.

Is the big maze reveal going to be that William (MIB) was right 30 years ago and that Dolores really is "different"? Is he going to realize that they have the capability of full consciousness just as Maeve gives this ability to the army of "robots"?

I am hoping for something more

William and mib still aren't the same person and the time frames aren't 30 years apart.