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Watched the Shining for the first time last night
Posted on 7/15/21 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 7/15/21 at 4:45 pm
Never really got into horror but I watched it last night and really enjoyed it. I did think that the middle of the movie was far more creepy than the end of the movie.
A couple questions:
- Who actually is Tony? At first I thought he was just a creepy demon living inside but it seems like he was actually an ally to Danny?
- Can someone explain why Jack is in the picture from 1921? I think I understand but not 100% sure.
- What the hell is with the dude in the bear suit blowing the old guy?
- Were all the dead people in the hotel ghosts or zombies or something? At first I thought they were just Jack/Danny hallucinating but then Wendy saw them as well.
A couple questions:
- Who actually is Tony? At first I thought he was just a creepy demon living inside but it seems like he was actually an ally to Danny?
- Can someone explain why Jack is in the picture from 1921? I think I understand but not 100% sure.
- What the hell is with the dude in the bear suit blowing the old guy?
- Were all the dead people in the hotel ghosts or zombies or something? At first I thought they were just Jack/Danny hallucinating but then Wendy saw them as well.
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Posted on 7/15/21 at 4:49 pm to diddlydawg7
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Can someone explain why Jack is in the picture from 1921?
He becomes part of the hotel.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 4:50 pm to diddlydawg7
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- Who actually is Tony? At first I thought he was just a creepy demon living inside but it seems like he was actually an ally to Danny?
That’s the question isn’t it.
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- Can someone explain why Jack is in the picture from 1921? I think I understand but not 100% sure.
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- Were all the dead people in the hotel ghosts or zombies or something? At first I thought they were just Jack/Danny hallucinating but then Wendy saw them as well.
They are spirits that have been absorbed by the hotel.
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- What the hell is with the dude in the bear suit blowing the old guy?
Stanley Kubrick took that one to the grave.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 5:25 pm to diddlydawg7
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Who actually is Tony?
He’s Danny from the future. Danny’s middle name is Anthony.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 5:30 pm to boston vol
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He becomes part of the hotel.
So when he dies at the hotel he is absorbed and basically exists all throughout the hotel’s timeline and haunts people similar to Grady?
Posted on 7/15/21 at 5:41 pm to OMLandshark
quote:I thought that was in the book?
Stanley Kubrick took that one to the grave.
You should check out the ABC miniseries from 1997 also. It's much truer to the source material.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 5:47 pm to diddlydawg7
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I did think that the middle of the movie was far more creepy than the end of the movie.
The movie is way better horror when he's slowly going insane and you don't really know what's going on. It's what people liked about The Witch.
Once he's psycho and out to kill, it's meh, but that's the part that became famous.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 5:59 pm to Stonehog
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He’s Danny from the future. Danny’s middle name is Anthony.
So maybe Tony from the future experienced Jack killing Wendy and he was able to stop it?
Posted on 7/15/21 at 6:02 pm to diddlydawg7
Check out Dr. Sleep which is the sequel. It's a little slow in some parts but the last 45 minutes or so are incredible.
I second the idea of finding the mini-series. You can find copies on eBay and Amazon. King didn't like the Kubrick version so he produced it with SciFi (they did several of his books as mini-series). The mini-series was also filmed it at The Stanley which is the hotel that King based the Overlook on.
I second the idea of finding the mini-series. You can find copies on eBay and Amazon. King didn't like the Kubrick version so he produced it with SciFi (they did several of his books as mini-series). The mini-series was also filmed it at The Stanley which is the hotel that King based the Overlook on.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 6:14 pm to Lsuham
quote:I believe King says the book is actually about alcoholism - and the ABC one definitely focused on that.
I second the idea of finding the mini-series. You can find copies on eBay and Amazon. King didn't like the Kubrick version so he produced it with SciFi (they did several of his books as mini-series). The mini-series was also filmed it at The Stanley which is the hotel that King based the Overlook on.
Also, I thought the tub lady was even scarier in the ABC one.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 6:15 pm to Big Scrub TX
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You should check out the ABC miniseries from 1997 also. It's much truer to the source material.
It may be more faithful but it looks and feels incredibly cheap compared to the film.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 6:30 pm to dawgdayafternoon
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It may be more faithful but it looks and feels incredibly cheap compared to the film.
And a lot less artistic. Jack is in the picture because he is the reincarnation of one of the early inhabitants/workers of the hotel ("You have always been the caretaker"). The movie is about the cyclical nature of violence. Check out the Documentary Room 237 about all the crazy interpretations of the movie.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 7:19 pm to rebelrouser
"Tony" is just a kid's coping mechanism to explain the visions that come with being psychic.
The hotel is also "psychic" in that it is like a battery that collects spiritual energies. The ghosts are spiritual memories. The worst the experience, the more powerful the memory. The Overlook is implied to have enough memories that it seeks out, seduces, and helps to create new terrible memories.
The hotel is like a self-fulfilling, self-destruction prophecy, much like a drug addiction. Since the Overlook is really a character in the movie(and book), it seems to have its own motive, but I don't think that's the case.
It is just Loaded with bad history. And that bad mojo helps create more bad mojo.
Now add in isolation and push GO.
The hotel is also "psychic" in that it is like a battery that collects spiritual energies. The ghosts are spiritual memories. The worst the experience, the more powerful the memory. The Overlook is implied to have enough memories that it seeks out, seduces, and helps to create new terrible memories.
The hotel is like a self-fulfilling, self-destruction prophecy, much like a drug addiction. Since the Overlook is really a character in the movie(and book), it seems to have its own motive, but I don't think that's the case.
It is just Loaded with bad history. And that bad mojo helps create more bad mojo.
Now add in isolation and push GO.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 8:21 pm to diddlydawg7
Tony is the Shining speaking to Danny in his head.
Jack has always been the caretaker.
Lots of scary ghosts in that hotel. A lot of bad things went down there, and perverted things.
All ghosts but really just the hotel’s Shining manifesting itself showing a lot of those bad things that have happened. Dick explained it to Danny like with the Shining the bad things leave a trace of themselves behind. Like when you burn something it leaves behind a smell.
Jack has always been the caretaker.
Lots of scary ghosts in that hotel. A lot of bad things went down there, and perverted things.
All ghosts but really just the hotel’s Shining manifesting itself showing a lot of those bad things that have happened. Dick explained it to Danny like with the Shining the bad things leave a trace of themselves behind. Like when you burn something it leaves behind a smell.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 9:40 pm to Big Scrub TX
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believe King says the book is actually about alcoholism - and the ABC one definitely focused on that.
The movie isn’t exactly subtle about jack being an alcoholic
Posted on 7/15/21 at 9:44 pm to diddlydawg7
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- Can someone explain why Jack is in the picture from 1921? I think I understand but not 100% sure.
Don’t worry about it Jeeves, I planned on changing before fish and goose soiree
This post was edited on 7/15/21 at 9:58 pm
Posted on 7/15/21 at 11:00 pm to diddlydawg7
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What the hell is with the dude in the bear suit blowing the old guy?
In the book, the man is a former owner of the hotel and the guy in the dog suit was an employee he treated like shite. There’s a creepy af scene in the book where Danny has a run in with the dog suit guy
This post was edited on 7/15/21 at 11:00 pm
Posted on 7/15/21 at 11:41 pm to OMLandshark
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Stanley Kubrick took that one to the grave.
They’re in the book.
The guy getting blown is an old owner of the hotel and the guy in the dog suit is a man in love with him but the owner is just fricking with.
I reas The book and it explains a lot. Reallly goes into the dad’s internal struggle.
This post was edited on 7/15/21 at 11:42 pm
Posted on 7/16/21 at 12:35 am to diddlydawg7
- What the hell is with the dude in the bear suit blowing the old guy?
That's Sugar Bear.
All you need to know.
That's Sugar Bear.
All you need to know.
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