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Was Darth Vader a Clone? Crazy Theories to save Star Wars

Posted on 7/9/24 at 7:58 am
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 7:58 am
My son and I were having one of those goofy "What if" discussions about fixing Star Wars and we came up with a crazy idea that actually sounded better the more we talked about it.

We know from the animated shows Palpatine was into Cloning. "What If" Palpatine surreptitiously had Anakin duplicated and the one that we saw turned to the dark side and became Vader was actually a clone and Anakin is somewhere frozen in carbonite to be found at some point in the current time to save the galaxy as the great Jedi he was during Clone Wars?

Who's got a crazy theory?
This post was edited on 7/9/24 at 8:00 am
Posted by Zap Rowsdower
MissLou, La
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 8:03 am to
Jar Jar Binks was actually the manipulative puppet master behind the whole thing.
Posted by Master of Sinanju
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 8:14 am to
Doesn't Luke have an evil clone?
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 8:28 am to
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Who's got a crazy theory?


What actually pushed Anakin to the dark side was that Obi Wan was clapping Padme's cheeks.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 8:39 am to
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Anakin is somewhere frozen in carbonite to be found at some point in the current time to save the galaxy as the great Jedi he was during Clone Wars?

But anakin was a terrible Jedi.
Posted by Tangineck
Mandeville
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 8:40 am to
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But anakin was a terrible Jedi


Fact
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 9:04 am to
not sure how this would save star wars.
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 10:01 am to
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But anakin was a terrible Jedi.



Strongly disagree. If you watched Clone Wars Anakin was awesome. The whole Jedi bullshite dogma of attachments was what screwed Anakin up. If he was allowed to openly have his marriage to Padme Palpatine would have never been able to latch on to him.

Luke's attachment to his father and Akankins attachment to Luke is what ultimately brought Sidious down.

I came across and well done video on if Anakin never turned and could marry

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Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 10:11 am to
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If you watched Clone Wars Anakin was awesome. The whole Jedi bullshite dogma of attachments was what screwed Anakin up.

it takes more than just taking out bad guys to be a good Jedi.

Anakin was always too emotional, even in the Clone Wars series.

There is also the whole Jedi thing about finding peace with death, and Anakin could not accept Padme's potential death. (this also goes against the whole attachments thing you already mentioned)
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 10:14 am to
Let it die and be a warning to others.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 10:16 am to
Yes Lu'uke made by Jorus C-'Aboth.
Man the Zahn trilogy should have been made into movies.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 10:35 am to
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We know from the animated shows Palpatine was into Cloning. "What If" Palpatine surreptitiously had Anakin duplicated and the one that we saw turned to the dark side and became Vader was actually a clone and Anakin is somewhere frozen in carbonite to be found at some point in the current time to save the galaxy as the great Jedi he was during Clone Wars?


Are you suggesting that Palpatine secretly cloned Anakin while he was still a child? Or cloned Anakin as an adult after Kenobi left him burnt to a crisp?

If cloned as a child, then if real Anakin was frozen in carbonite, then that would've meant that the Jedi trained the cloned version and real Anakin never received training in the force. So he wouldn't be a Jedi or a skilled warrior. He'd probably kick arse in pod races, but not so much in light saber battles.

If cloned as an adult, then you have even more holes in the theory. Clones have accelerated aging, but they aren't immediately cloned as the same age as the source they were cloned from. It'd take roughly a decade for a clone to reach adulthood, but there's no such gaps in the timeline where Vader isn't around hunting surviving Jedi or terrorizing the galaxy in between Revenge of the Sith and the original trilogy. And a clone wouldn't be disfigured from the burns Anakin got from his battle with Obi Wan. So he wouldn't need the suit to survive, or the bacta tank, or have a scarred face when he removes his mask after he saves Luke from Palpatine in ROTJ.

Not to mention it flies in the face of Vader's whole redemption arc.
Posted by TheNameIsDalton
Huntsville
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 10:47 am to
The Jedi Council had their heads too far up their butts which allowed Palpatine to start influencing matters right under their noses.

You can make an argument the Council is to blame for their downfall, including letting down Anakin. Qui Gon was right all along.
Posted by Tacktheritrix
Wonderland
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 10:54 am to
I think we can all admit that it's not Palpatine nor the Jedi Council's fault.

The only person we can find fault in is Padme. She intentionally seduced a minor and groomed him to be her royal boink toy. If any one should be blamed for his turn to the dark side, it's her.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 11:27 am to
Arguing Anakin went to the dark side because the Jedi wouldn’t let him marry is like arguing Priest diddle kids because they can’t marry.

The red flags were there since Anakin was way too young to date Padme.

Also, the other option was for Anakin to leave the order and marry Padme and just be idk I guess Prince Consort of Naboo?

Posted by Zap Rowsdower
MissLou, La
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 1:46 pm to
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Who's got a crazy theory?


The Sequel Trilogy wasn’t that bad.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 2:13 pm to
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Doesn't Luke have an evil clone?


Yes, in the EU.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 7:58 pm to
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Crazy Theories to save Star Wars
What if Disney had not bought Lucasfilms?
Posted by Dairy Sanders
Member since Apr 2022
2963 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 10:39 pm to
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Padme


Greatest unintentional villain in cinematic history.
Posted by SaintTiger80
Member since Feb 2020
532 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:11 am to
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The red flags were there since Anakin was way too young to date Padme


I always wondered why Qui Gon Jin or the Jedi Council never went back to free Anakin’s mother.

Yoda sensed great fear in Anakin.. Yeah! His mother is still a freaking slave on a brutal planet.
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