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re: Wakanda Forever director says Namor will have Thor/Hulk strength level
Posted on 11/8/22 at 8:57 am to SouthEasternKaiju
Posted on 11/8/22 at 8:57 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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This is what happens when non comic book fans start inserting themselves into projects simply to promote The Message.
The frick are you talking about? Namor has gone toe to two w/those two in the comics many times. He once punched Hulk so hard he turned back into Bruce Banner.
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Posted on 11/8/22 at 9:12 am to Dr RC
Think the Disney Marvel creators knew any of that? 
They made him a soy bodied Aztec / Mayan which makes zero sense. Changed his name & origin story… please.
They made him a soy bodied Aztec / Mayan which makes zero sense. Changed his name & origin story… please.
Posted on 11/8/22 at 9:58 am to Dr RC
quote:Sounds like an awesome threat for when you're facing off with a bodybuilder. "Man, I'll punch you so hard, you'll turn back into Bruce Banner."
He once punched Hulk so hard he turned back into Bruce Banner.
Posted on 11/8/22 at 10:00 am to BRich
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'Huerta explained that this change will help Namor feel a little more realistic, grounding the character and his home "in real cultural significance and cultural traditions" to help bring the Latinx community into the spotlight'.
Yes, because when i think of oceans and the sea, the first culture i think of is the landmass of South America.
If anything, Namor should be Pacific islander, but i guess Disney already checked that box with Moana.
Posted on 11/8/22 at 10:10 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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Think the Disney Marvel creators knew any of that?
Maybe, maybe not but it's pretty clear your perpetually aggrieved arse didn't so why don't you pipe the frick down for once ehh?
Posted on 11/8/22 at 10:12 am to BugAC
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If anything, Namor should be Pacific islander, but i guess Disney already checked that box with Moana.
DC already checked that box with Momoa.
Posted on 11/8/22 at 11:03 am to El Guapo21
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While I don't disagree in the look for Namor, I think (in my opinion) the Aztec look kicks arse. This guy didn't have to be Namor to look like this.
That said, Namor being in this is the only reason I will see it.
I like the look, but not for Namor. The look and roleplay was always going to be tough to nail with a single actor but adding the Aztec look to him -for me- shits all over the character for the sole sake of woke inclusionment.
Posted on 11/8/22 at 11:09 am to Roaad
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Everytime Hulk and Namor have fought, Namor has won. He has knocked Hulk out, repeatedly.
Fair point. I've heard that Namor is a big deal, and even that Aquaman couldnt touch him if they fought.
I guess I'm just confused on how Black Panther is supposed to deal with him. But I guess we will soon see.
Posted on 11/8/22 at 11:36 am to Methuselah
Namor is technically a mutant and a cursory look at his strength levels shows he’s significantly stronger in water to the point he’s knocked out: She Hulk, Red Hulk, and Savage Hulk.
Anyone complaining about the director’s statement is looking for shite to cry about.
As for the Aztec thing, the reason first given was to have a differentiation between the DC Atlanteans. Basically, the Mouse doesn’t wanna be confused with DC shite.
Anyone complaining about the director’s statement is looking for shite to cry about.
As for the Aztec thing, the reason first given was to have a differentiation between the DC Atlanteans. Basically, the Mouse doesn’t wanna be confused with DC shite.
This post was edited on 11/8/22 at 11:39 am
Posted on 11/8/22 at 11:49 am to GalacticaCannon
quote:The irony being that The Submariner is the one superhero archetype that Marvel (Timely) created only to have the concept copied by DC (National Comics). Mort Weisinger was notorious for stealing concepts (Green Arrow from Golden Arrow, Johnny Quick from The Flash). The only reason that Aquaman stayed in print while every almost every superhero went away in the 50's is because Weisinger became the editor of the Superman comics and kept Aquaman and Green Arrow alive as back-up stories.
As for the Aztec thing, the reason first given was to have a differentiation between the DC Atlanteans. Basically, the Mouse doesn’t wanna be confused with DC shite.
Posted on 11/8/22 at 12:04 pm to GalacticaCannon
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As for the Aztec thing, the reason first given was to have a differentiation between the DC Atlanteans. Basically, the Mouse doesn’t wanna be confused with DC shite.
This is pandering to the worst degree. You don't actually believe this is why do you? This is the same excuse DC has always given to not having Batman or Superman on TV while they are in movies. They basically think the audience are invalids that can't differentiate between the two.
I'm not disagreeing with you that they might have actually said this. I just believe that it's bull shite.
Posted on 11/8/22 at 3:22 pm to QJenk
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I guess I'm just confused on how Black Panther is supposed to deal with him. But I guess we will soon see.
Probably a frick ton of high tech weapons.
Posted on 11/8/22 at 3:27 pm to Fewer Kilometers
cough deadpool cough strange cough thanos cough etc
Posted on 11/8/22 at 4:31 pm to Methuselah
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This post was edited on 1/6/23 at 9:58 pm
Posted on 11/8/22 at 4:46 pm to Keep Stirring
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Has it been confirmed anywhere if they will identify that Namor is a mutant in the film?
Nothing official but rumor has it he will be a mutant.
quote:
He'd technically be the first in the linear Disney-MCU universe I think.
If he explicitly says, “I’m a mutant” then it’ll be the first time it’s been used in that context. Kind of smoke and mirrors so far. It was heavily implied about Ms. Marvel though and it could be inferred even for Wanda. There was also a certain character in DS:MoM that is obviously a mutant though I don’t believe the term is ever used.
Posted on 11/8/22 at 4:49 pm to BugAC
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Yes, because when i think of oceans and the sea, the first culture i think of is the landmass of South America.
Um, the whole Aztec/Mayan culture they are ripping off is in North America (mostly Mexico and some central American countries)
I think you are thinking of the Incas (as in The Emperor's New Groove) who were in South America.
Posted on 11/8/22 at 6:53 pm to QJenk
quote:All of these characters power levels have been screwed up by the MCU since it all started with Ironman. Ironman is supposedly as strong as Thor or close in the comics, but he has trouble fighting Cap in the MCU who breaks parts of his powerful armor. Namor the Submariner is not as strong as Hulk or Thor while on land, but underwater it's a different story altogether. His strength is equal to Hulk's strength or even greater according to comic lore.
Even if Namor is Thor's power level from the first Thor movie, that still easily overpowers Black Panther, who is Cap level.
This post was edited on 11/8/22 at 6:58 pm
Posted on 11/8/22 at 7:05 pm to Fewer Kilometers
quote:"or you won't come out anymore because you're afraid." Lol Remember, Thanos? Lol
"Man, I'll punch you so hard, you'll turn back into Bruce Banner."
Posted on 11/8/22 at 7:48 pm to USMCguy121
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Everyone going forward will be the next strongest ever
if they aren't, they aren't relevant.
Comics struggled with this for a long time.
I'm curious where the put the Thing at when the FF are introduced. I've always considered that the Thing was a little below Namor. Then again, I always considered Namor a little below Thor level while on land (under water is a different matter). I think Hercules is generally considered to be Thor level (but without the lightning-based powers).
Posted on 11/8/22 at 9:01 pm to LouisianaLonghorn
I don't read the comics but it has issues where both were fighting underwater in a struggle.
I remember that he begins to get weaker the longer he is away from water.
I remember that he begins to get weaker the longer he is away from water.
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