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re: True Detective S4 Season Long Thread

Posted on 2/21/24 at 9:22 am to
Posted by Sam Quint
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 9:22 am to
if anyone wants a random sidequest:


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Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8830 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 9:23 am to
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Foster was very good in her role.

was she though?
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
34176 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 9:41 am to
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Prestige TV Podcast


No the other one, The Watch. It’s Andy Greenwald and Chris Ryan. I like it better. Joanna is as liberal and feminist as they come so I am curious on her opinion.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85015 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 10:09 am to
Just popping back in to say I've slept on it for the 3rd night and I still think this season was fricking terrible.

Now back to your regularly scheduled programming
Posted by GeauxldMember
Member since Nov 2003
5688 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 10:12 am to
Wow, what a colossal piece of dog shite this season was. Bad episodes to spare and the finale took the cake by a country mile.

My wife, who asked me multiple times throughout the season to stop bashing it during our watch and let it sort out literally said, “yeah, this is terrible; you can go ahead and shite on it if you like” about 30 minutes in. Then we both shite on it for the next 40 minutes.

Anyone still claiming season 2 is worse than this season should just go ahead and seek therapy.

Who at HBO read this script and green-lit it? That’s asking the right question!
Posted by schatman
Montana
Member since Nov 2018
2958 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 10:13 am to
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I still think this season was fricking terrible.


Yeah, the more lazy plot garbage I see, the more I feel insulted as a viewer. But if I complain, I'm a misogynist.

I swear, I don't care about the race or sex of the lead characters whatsoever- I just want to see something well written and plotted. And this thing was an absolute abomination.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85015 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 10:16 am to
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I don't care about the race or sex of the lead characters whatsoever-


Them being female had nothing to do with it being shitty... There was soooo much potential for this season with the backdrop and the writers/director completely shite the bed.

/story
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8830 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 10:18 am to
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My wife, who asked me multiple times throughout the season to stop bashing it during our watch and let it sort out literally said, “yeah, this is terrible; you can go ahead and shite on it if you like” about 30 minutes in. Then we both shite on it for the next 40 minutes.

basically the same dynamic with me on this thread. i was defending the show until about episode 4, at which point i realized that all was lost.
Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
20202 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 10:19 am to
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i genuinely would like to know what people enjoyed about this season, to the people who are claiming this season was good.


HBO knows the recipe for a hit show. Beautiful set designs/ visually stunning, random remixes of famous songs and a big name actor/actress. Put all these things together and its easy to make something bad seem good.
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Posted by DragginFly
Under the Mountain;By the Lake
Member since Oct 2014
3701 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:24 pm to
Nic retweeted this.

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Just want to send love to @nicpizzolatto. I can only imagine how it feels to have his all time classic dialogue butchered and misappropriated like it was last night. And the interview where she says they exist in same universe. No they do not!!! Last night's finale was some of the sloppiest writing I've ever watched. So insulting calling it True Detective, and beyond disrespectful invoking time is a flat circle.' Rewatching Sl...I feel this may be blasphemy, and it may be due to 20 more yrs of rewatches, but it hits me harder than Twin Peaks right now. SlEl is perfect. Every beat. It's mind blowing how loaded it is. Every decision had the entire show's central idea in it. The layering in these scenes, the subtext in the dialogue that you only know later, wow. Unlike 99% of TV, they were not making this up as they went along. The entire idea was in every shot. I am so thankful. I bow. Cleansing my palette now with a full S1 rewatch.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87381 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:25 pm to
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Foster was very good in her role.

was she though?

I thought so.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85015 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 2:26 pm to
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Nic retweeted this.


I just went to HBO's IG Account and holy shite, they are getting shredded. Scrolled through first 25-30 comments to the season finale promo and not a single positive comment.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
60068 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 2:29 pm to
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What Happened to ‘True Detective’ Creator Nic Pizzolatto?

His reposting of comments critical of the latest installment of the HBO franchise have left some wondering what became of the original showrunner.


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The way that we relate to the stories we tell is profound and it’s personal, and I cannot make a judgment on his experience. His experience is not my experience. I’ve never started a franchise, so I cannot talk for him. I can talk for me,” showrunner López told THR on Wednesday. “And all I can say is I love True Detective and I love Night Country, and they’re in that same universe, and if you jumped on the boat with me and came for the ride, you’re going to enjoy the fact that the language is the same language and the mythology is the same mythology and the elements are shared. But if you didn’t jump on the boat with me, you’re not going to like it. So I hope you jumped on the boat with me and gave this chance.”

Season four star Reis, responding to a viewer who called out Pizzolatto for “posting other people’s stories about how Issa López ruined the franchise like an absolutely enormous baby,” wrote that it was “a damn shame” that the True Detective creator could not support the new installment. “But hey I guess ‘if you don’t have anything good to share, shite on others’ is the new wave,” she wrote.



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Posted by Hogssmellgood
Hog in Vol land
Member since Nov 2012
2163 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 3:19 pm to
Finally caught up on the finale last night. I just want to know how the frick Danvers didn't die.You fall in water that cold and get drug back to a facility in the freezing cold, sit in a facility with no heat around a tiny-arse campfire without (at least by the looks of it) changing into dry clothes? No way she's surviving that.
This post was edited on 2/21/24 at 3:20 pm
Posted by wesfau
Member since Mar 2023
2331 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 3:21 pm to
Well, she was on the verge of death for a few moments. Navarro was trying to keep her awake.

Your point is well taken, but they didn't have her pop out of the water and do wind sprints or anything.
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
14784 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 3:25 pm to
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Finally caught up on the finale last night. I just want to know how the frick Danvers didn't die.You fall in water that cold and get drug back to a facility in the freezing cold, sit in a facility with no heat around a tiny-arse campfire without (at least by the looks of it) changing into dry clothes? No way she's surviving that.


When you have one guy surviving being frozen solid for two days, this doesn’t seem so out there. I wonder if there is an Instagram post about that
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
90263 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 3:50 pm to
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Finally caught up on the finale last night. I just want to know how the frick Danvers didn't die.You fall in water that cold and get drug back to a facility in the freezing cold, sit in a facility with no heat around a tiny-arse campfire without (at least by the looks of it) changing into dry clothes? No way she's surviving that.


Bro....a man was frozen into a popsicle to the point that one of his limbs literally snapped off from his body like a twig in a storm yet he continued to live long enough to sit up and cosplay as a possessed person.

You're in the night country now, just go with it.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8830 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 4:14 pm to
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When you have one guy surviving being frozen solid for two days, this doesn’t seem so out there. I wonder if there is an Instagram post about that

Easily explained with Ennis Magic. TRY AGAIN
Posted by schatman
Montana
Member since Nov 2018
2958 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 4:29 pm to
I tried to paste this, but too many characters- definitely a TL, DR. But if you have the time, this is pretty funny and spot-on.

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Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
20064 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 5:24 pm to
2 woman detectives and a group of killer boss bitches. They show went exactly how I thought it would.

Also, why would you go into an ice cave without marking your trail or any rope? I guess "I'm asking the wrong questions"
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