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re: True Detective S3 Finale - Sunday 8PM
Posted on 2/25/19 at 11:32 pm to Tiger Voodoo
Posted on 2/25/19 at 11:32 pm to Tiger Voodoo
quote:Couldn't agree more with everything
Still a good season, but the finale was almost as disappointing as season 1 imo.
My biggest problem with it was Hays not calling Roland the moment he made the connection about the boy likely being the gardener. Roland deserved to be there for that moment every bit as much as Hays, if not even more. Not to mention that he would have called him if for nothing more than to prevent what happened, in case he forgot where he was or what he was doing.
The least he would have done was written himself a reminder on the note, even just a “Julie?”. The whole show the dude was talking about leaving himself notes to remember things. He wouldn’t have just taken off.
And would have been such a total dick move to leave Roland out.
Just kind of forced imo.
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Posted on 2/25/19 at 11:49 pm to landrywasbeast30
quote:Jesus, it really was this bad
Forgot to mention, the scenario that ultimately gave us the ending of Wayne finding Julie, was a book falling on the ground, somehow falling open right to the page about Mike, then Wayne’s ghost wife explaining it all to him. This literally happened. This is how we found Julie Purcell.
Posted on 2/26/19 at 7:50 am to JuiceTerry
I really liked the finale. I figure it helped that I waited until last night and had seen the negative talk on here, didn’t actually read everything- just saw words of disappointment- so my expectations weren’t as high as they may have been.
Posted on 2/26/19 at 8:55 am to eyeran
quote:because it's not Amelia. It's Hays
I get Hayes having visions of Amelia, but how is she actually giving him real, tangible information?
Posted on 2/26/19 at 10:43 am to Pilot Tiger
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because it's not Amelia. It's Hays
This. She’s basically narrating the dots being connected in his head.
Posted on 2/26/19 at 10:46 am to eyeran
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I get Hayes having visions of Amelia, but how is she actually giving him real, tangible information?
Amelia was a product of his mind. He was thinking everything she said.
Posted on 2/26/19 at 10:53 am to shel311
quote:The worst part is, the finale proved Hays and Roland are the worst detectives of all time
I liked it otherwise.
They allowed the crime to be pinned on an innocent war veteran
Then they allowed the crime to be pinned on a poor grieving father
All the while, the main people truly responsible faced any real consequences.
And to top it all off, Detective Hays didnt figure shite out until his wifes book happened to fall open on the perfect page
This post was edited on 2/26/19 at 10:55 am
Posted on 2/26/19 at 11:03 am to Scoop
quote:
My take:
Pay attention to the sound effects when Wayne meets Julie. There are wave sounds. The first wave sound is when Wayne remembers why he is there and who Julie is. He decides to let it go because she is happy and has a good life. He knows the publicity of her being found will disrupt that.
He then forgets again with another wave sound and that’s why he gives his son the paper. He has forgotten that he wanted to protect Julie.
The son pockets the paper at the end and will expose Julie to the TV reporter which negates what Wayne wanted for Julie.
I was expecting when the son opened drawer to have it full of those exect notes. That Hays had solved it over and over and kept forgetting each time.
Posted on 2/26/19 at 11:07 am to SEC. 593
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That Hays had solved it over and over and kept forgetting each time.
For all intents and purposes, Hays solved the crime in the 90s timeline. He just had to keep quiet due to his meeting with Hoyt.
The current timeline ended up not being about solving anything, just finding out whatever became of Julie and seeking closure.
Posted on 2/26/19 at 11:09 am to piggilicious
quote:
I really liked the finale. I figure it helped that I waited until last night and had seen the negative talk on here, didn’t actually read everything- just saw words of disappointment- so my expectations weren’t as high as they may have been.
I really like Hays and how his relationships with Amelia and Roland evolved. Thought the finale was really good in that area. The resolution of the actual case left a lot to be desired.
Posted on 2/26/19 at 11:31 am to lsupride87
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They allowed the crime to be pinned on an innocent war veteran
They were forced to drop it because of the AG. This happens in real life. Look at the duke lacrosse case. Or look at how much the "West Memphis 3" kinda mirrors this season especially at the start.
This post was edited on 2/26/19 at 11:32 am
Posted on 2/26/19 at 12:18 pm to ShootingsBricks4Life
And they let it happen again, except 10 fold by letting the crime stick to the poor father
Then, Amelia and her book was the ultimate one who helped solve the case
They stepped all over their dicks as good detectives
Then, Amelia and her book was the ultimate one who helped solve the case
They stepped all over their dicks as good detectives
This post was edited on 2/26/19 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 2/26/19 at 12:22 pm to lsupride87
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They stepped all over their dicks as good detectives
They also killed a guy they were interrogating illegally.... once that happened, they went into self preservation mode and couldn't pursue the case any further.
ETA- also, Tom Purcell decided to go play detective and get himself killed snooping around the Hoyt compound. How were they supposed to stop that?
This post was edited on 2/26/19 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 2/26/19 at 12:23 pm to 632627
Yeh that too
Like season 1, Pizzolato writes fantastic dialogue and the scenes and imagery are fantastic
But when the story is over and I look back on it, it’s very underwhelming. Like season 1, I still enjoyed the ride though
Like season 1, Pizzolato writes fantastic dialogue and the scenes and imagery are fantastic
But when the story is over and I look back on it, it’s very underwhelming. Like season 1, I still enjoyed the ride though
This post was edited on 2/26/19 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 2/26/19 at 12:24 pm to 632627
quote:I didn’t say they could stop his murder, but they knowingly let the crime be pinned to an innocent person TWICE
Tom Purcell decided to go play detective and get himself killed snooping around the Hoyt compound. How were they supposed to stop that?
Posted on 2/26/19 at 12:40 pm to lsupride87
quote:
Like season 1, Pizzolato writes fantastic dialogue and the scenes and imagery are fantastic
But when the story is over and I look back on it, it’s very underwhelming. Like season 1, I still enjoyed the ride though
so, i voiced a similar complaint about Pizzolato in a different thread and a couple guys blasted me for it. I think NP comes up with great storylines, but the resulting screenplay and execution (and ultimately the resolutions of each story) leave a lot to be desired.
What's also interesting about season 3, as opposed to the first 2, is the mystery really wasnt all that intricate, and the murder in question was just an accident. also, it was straightforward enough that a bunch of people figured it out early.
i guess i'm in the minority here- i didn't love season 1 as much as everyone else ( i thought it fell off a cliff the last few episodes), nor did i hate season 2 as much as everyone. I liked season 3 just about as much as season 1 to be honest.
Posted on 2/26/19 at 12:56 pm to JuiceTerry
Or maybe he found a spot and started reading from there and eventually got to the boy part. You just saw where he started reading the boy part and nothing more.
Posted on 2/26/19 at 1:13 pm to 632627
quote:
i guess i'm in the minority here- i didn't love season 1 as much as everyone else ( i thought it fell off a cliff the last few episodes), nor did i hate season 2 as much as everyone. I liked season 3 just about as much as season 1 to be honest.
Same with me, I always thought 1 was some overrated.
Posted on 2/26/19 at 1:14 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
I think most of y'all took the show a little different than intended.
The story is about Hays and not the case. The case drove Hays insane and it effected his personal life and relationships.
The case wasn't overly complex but Hays wanted it to be because he needed something in his life to fulfill the hole he had. He was blinded by his narrow focus and ego that he wouldn't let anyone interfere with what he knew. His wife's book was the outside information that he needed but was too prideful to look through it as he thought her views didn't hold any more secrets than he already knew.
There was no Season 1 tie in as it was just a red herring that the interviewer threw in there. We assumed that it was actually connected and wanted it to be similar to what Hays was doing.
The story was told to make us the audience think like Hays and make it much more complicated than it actually was. Most of the clues were already presented in earlier episodes.
Most often in a moment of "a ha!", we forget the little details that will provide us a backup. We get too caught up in the moment. Not to mention Hays has a mental disease. We the viewer often forget that we can just sit back and analyze everything.
His son didn't want to tell him because it seemed to him that Hays does not remember the path he took and is again innocent. He wanted him to keep that way instead of poisoning his mind on something that ultimately doesn't matter as Hoyt is dead, his daughter is dead, Tom is dead, the mother is dead, Julie is alive and happy.
The story is about Hays and not the case. The case drove Hays insane and it effected his personal life and relationships.
The case wasn't overly complex but Hays wanted it to be because he needed something in his life to fulfill the hole he had. He was blinded by his narrow focus and ego that he wouldn't let anyone interfere with what he knew. His wife's book was the outside information that he needed but was too prideful to look through it as he thought her views didn't hold any more secrets than he already knew.
There was no Season 1 tie in as it was just a red herring that the interviewer threw in there. We assumed that it was actually connected and wanted it to be similar to what Hays was doing.
The story was told to make us the audience think like Hays and make it much more complicated than it actually was. Most of the clues were already presented in earlier episodes.
Most often in a moment of "a ha!", we forget the little details that will provide us a backup. We get too caught up in the moment. Not to mention Hays has a mental disease. We the viewer often forget that we can just sit back and analyze everything.
His son didn't want to tell him because it seemed to him that Hays does not remember the path he took and is again innocent. He wanted him to keep that way instead of poisoning his mind on something that ultimately doesn't matter as Hoyt is dead, his daughter is dead, Tom is dead, the mother is dead, Julie is alive and happy.
Posted on 2/26/19 at 1:30 pm to lsupride87
quote:
The worst part is, the finale proved Hays and Roland are the worst detectives of all time
quote:
lsupride87
Maybe you are just too stupid to watch these type of shows...
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