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re: True Detective S3 Finale - Sunday 8PM
Posted on 2/25/19 at 2:52 pm to Jester
Posted on 2/25/19 at 2:52 pm to Jester
Still a good season, but the finale was almost as disappointing as season 1 imo.
My biggest problem with it was Hays not calling Roland the moment he made the connection about the boy likely being the gardener. Roland deserved to be there for that moment every bit as much as Hays, if not even more. Not to mention that he would have called him if for nothing more than to prevent what happened, in case he forgot where he was or what he was doing.
The least he would have done was written himself a reminder on the note, even just a “Julie?”. The whole show the dude was talking about leaving himself notes to remember things. He wouldn’t have just taken off.
And would have been such a total dick move to leave Roland out.
Just kind of forced imo.
Roland was such a badass.
“You don’t want to live with it,” looks to gun cabinet, “then don’t.”
Walks out
My biggest problem with it was Hays not calling Roland the moment he made the connection about the boy likely being the gardener. Roland deserved to be there for that moment every bit as much as Hays, if not even more. Not to mention that he would have called him if for nothing more than to prevent what happened, in case he forgot where he was or what he was doing.
The least he would have done was written himself a reminder on the note, even just a “Julie?”. The whole show the dude was talking about leaving himself notes to remember things. He wouldn’t have just taken off.
And would have been such a total dick move to leave Roland out.
Just kind of forced imo.
Roland was such a badass.
“You don’t want to live with it,” looks to gun cabinet, “then don’t.”
Walks out
This post was edited on 2/25/19 at 2:55 pm
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Posted on 2/25/19 at 3:16 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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Roland was such a badass
Roland was my favorite character, on the level as Rust Cohle. If only they gave him more screen time.
Posted on 2/25/19 at 6:27 pm to Jester
The dog was clearly a symbolic mirror. A couple of old strays, past their prime, unwanted and cast out. Then they find each other.
That’s the stuff that I think will become evident upon rewatching. Tons of foreshadowing, symbolism and such throughout this thing. As I said then went with “high art” for this one.
That’s the stuff that I think will become evident upon rewatching. Tons of foreshadowing, symbolism and such throughout this thing. As I said then went with “high art” for this one.
Posted on 2/25/19 at 7:15 pm to hogfly
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That’s the stuff that I think will become evident upon rewatching. Tons of foreshadowing, symbolism and such throughout this thing. As I said then went with “high art” for this one.
That's why I liked it. Like Ryno said, we were spoonfed most of the mystery. Just needed a few details and gaps filled in at the end. (Yes it was lame to just have the book own to the page). Everybody wants some huge twist at the end or a Shawshank rock clanging down the wall "oh shite" moment.
Posted on 2/25/19 at 8:25 pm to LSUJuice
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Everybody wants some huge twist at the end or a Shawshank rock clanging down the wall "oh shite" moment.
My problem with this is that it wasn’t the fans who wrote this story. The people who wrote this season put in all the hints at twists, turns, mysteries, conspiracies.
They blatantly put all kinds of red herrings and started a bunch of things that went nowhere. Then after the finale is a total letdown, people who like to act like they are smarter than everyone come out of nowhere claiming how amazing it was and what it really meant.
It’s fine if Pizzolatto wanted to make a statement about fandom, and internet theories, and what not. But he was personally responsible for writing this show that put in clues leading to those theories, and didn’t pay any of it off.
It’s not like people were making shite up out of thin air. The show specifically brought up child sex rings, season 1 case. It’s bad writing and shitty of Pizzolatto to then basically spit in the face of fans for using information he wrote to mock them for being stupid and being too invested in his show.
This post was edited on 2/25/19 at 8:26 pm
Posted on 2/25/19 at 8:49 pm to landrywasbeast30
Acting was great no doubt and I enjoyed it, but I began to waver at the ole chicken processing plant, one eyed black man and pedo ring storyline..
Posted on 2/25/19 at 9:37 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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Still a good season, but the finale was almost as disappointing as season 1 imo.
I didn’t love the finale, but it wasn’t as big of a letdown as season 1.
Posted on 2/25/19 at 9:50 pm to landrywasbeast30
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It’s fine if Pizzolatto wanted to make a statement about fandom, and internet theories, and what not.
i think people are giving this guy far too much credit.
and s3 was so baffling empty that people are compelled to give it meaning.
Posted on 2/25/19 at 9:57 pm to TigerstuckinMS
My take:
Pay attention to the sound effects when Wayne meets Julie. There are wave sounds. The first wave sound is when Wayne remembers why he is there and who Julie is. He decides to let it go because she is happy and has a good life. He knows the publicity of her being found will disrupt that.
He then forgets again with another wave sound and that’s why he gives his son the paper. He has forgotten that he wanted to protect Julie.
The son pockets the paper at the end and will expose Julie to the TV reporter which negates what Wayne wanted for Julie.
The going into the jungle scene was either Wayne dying or going completely into the dementia without moments of clarity.
Pay attention to the sound effects when Wayne meets Julie. There are wave sounds. The first wave sound is when Wayne remembers why he is there and who Julie is. He decides to let it go because she is happy and has a good life. He knows the publicity of her being found will disrupt that.
He then forgets again with another wave sound and that’s why he gives his son the paper. He has forgotten that he wanted to protect Julie.
The son pockets the paper at the end and will expose Julie to the TV reporter which negates what Wayne wanted for Julie.
The going into the jungle scene was either Wayne dying or going completely into the dementia without moments of clarity.
Posted on 2/25/19 at 10:23 pm to cigsmcgee
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i think people are giving this guy far too much credit. and s3 was so baffling empty that people are compelled to give it meaning.
Just to be clear, I agree that I don’t think that’s what he was doing. That garbage is just coming from people who think they are smarter than everyone after a clearly unsatisfying finale that flat out didn’t address a ton a shite they introduced.
I was just saying even if that is what he was doing, it was still poorly handled. If that was his intent, the way it was handled basically tells fans there is no reason to put any thought or energy into anything this guy puts out.
Posted on 2/25/19 at 10:24 pm to eyeran
quote:for me, that was the only thing lacking in the finale, I liked it otherwise.
The entire season was wrapped up by having two people lay out exactly what happened, point by point...
Posted on 2/25/19 at 10:30 pm to landrywasbeast30
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Just to be clear, I agree that I don’t think that’s what he was doing.
yeah, wasnt trying implying that was the point you were making.
im still alittle shocked that people round here still poo poo the s1 finale.
Posted on 2/25/19 at 10:31 pm to PortCityTiger24
quote:Yep, I loved it too.
People are really upset with the finale? I thought it was amazing. I don't get some of y'all.
Didn't like how they just force fed line by line 2 of the biggest storylines but otherwise, I thought it was great.
Posted on 2/25/19 at 10:36 pm to geaux4tigers
I think the finale was fine. Could it have been more interesting? Sure. But it worked for me.
The only thing I didn't care for was the way Hayes found out about Ardoin by knocking the book over. Just a bit to shoehorned and convenient.
I think when Hayes is at Julie's house and he sips the water, that look he gives, that's when he realized why he was there. But he chose not to say anything. To let her be.
I don't think there is any way he doesn't tell Roland after dinner so he has closure too.
The only thing I didn't care for was the way Hayes found out about Ardoin by knocking the book over. Just a bit to shoehorned and convenient.
I think when Hayes is at Julie's house and he sips the water, that look he gives, that's when he realized why he was there. But he chose not to say anything. To let her be.
I don't think there is any way he doesn't tell Roland after dinner so he has closure too.
Posted on 2/25/19 at 10:38 pm to shel311
Just finished
I don’t have a huge problem with what got answered and what didn’t, expect for the Amelia storyline. My main issue was the execution and how we got there. Just felt very underwhelming
Such as this:
I don’t have a huge problem with what got answered and what didn’t, expect for the Amelia storyline. My main issue was the execution and how we got there. Just felt very underwhelming
Such as this:
quote:
The entire season was wrapped up by having two people lay out exactly what happened, point by point..
Posted on 2/25/19 at 10:52 pm to jg8623
I think Nic wrote too much script. From what I've read online, it appears that lots of details were omitted to make the finale fit into the allotted time.
Details about Amelia's death, more detail about Wayne and Rebecca's relationship, etc.
I felt from the start, as an extra, that they cut so much out of the scenes we filmed. Dialogue, minor plot points, set-ups of the scene, lots of stuff.
They needed better editing, because there were situations between Amelia and Wayne that just drug on and on, where slices could have been made to save time.
Maybe those dialogues were even more bloated originally, though.
Details about Amelia's death, more detail about Wayne and Rebecca's relationship, etc.
I felt from the start, as an extra, that they cut so much out of the scenes we filmed. Dialogue, minor plot points, set-ups of the scene, lots of stuff.
They needed better editing, because there were situations between Amelia and Wayne that just drug on and on, where slices could have been made to save time.
Maybe those dialogues were even more bloated originally, though.
Posted on 2/25/19 at 10:52 pm to Scoop
quote:
The going into the jungle scene was either Wayne dying
I took the final scenes as Wayne dying.
Posted on 2/25/19 at 11:01 pm to lsuhunt555
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The going into the jungle scene was either Wayne dyin
quote:
I took the final scene as Wayne dying
Apparently not
Posted on 2/25/19 at 11:06 pm to TheSurge
When Wayne breaks the fourth wall, he looks startled, right before his last two flashbacks. I think that means the dementia is taking over his mind for good and he ain't coming back. That explains the randomness of him being back in the jungle..
This post was edited on 2/25/19 at 11:08 pm
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