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re: True Detective S3 Finale - Sunday 8PM
Posted on 2/25/19 at 10:28 am to Midtiger farm
Posted on 2/25/19 at 10:28 am to Midtiger farm
I really liked the season but like most the ending left a lot to be desired.
Did Julie know or figure out who Hayes was at the end when she offered him the water? We know Hayes forgot why he was there but it seemed like he might have remembered when drinking the water then turned to look back at her and since he knew she was ok decided to not say anything.
Or does Hayes (and Roland) go to the grave thinking Julie died?
Really have to feel bad for Roland in this scenario. You know he feels terrible that he didn't do more (grave scene of them apologizing to Mary July) to buck the AG and not accept the conclusions that it was, first Trash Man and then 2nd time it was Tom.
Plus, he killed Harris James..guess they got some closure when they apologized to his widow.
Who killed Dan and burried him in the rock quarrie? I don't think it was Tom, didn't have time to go burry him and then get to the Hoyt compound. So, it was Harris James? after he caught Tom, HJ found Dan in Tom's car? Harris framed the suicide and the took out Dan.
Again, I really liked the season but it just had to many parts that were poorly concluded.
Did Julie know or figure out who Hayes was at the end when she offered him the water? We know Hayes forgot why he was there but it seemed like he might have remembered when drinking the water then turned to look back at her and since he knew she was ok decided to not say anything.
Or does Hayes (and Roland) go to the grave thinking Julie died?
Really have to feel bad for Roland in this scenario. You know he feels terrible that he didn't do more (grave scene of them apologizing to Mary July) to buck the AG and not accept the conclusions that it was, first Trash Man and then 2nd time it was Tom.
Plus, he killed Harris James..guess they got some closure when they apologized to his widow.
Who killed Dan and burried him in the rock quarrie? I don't think it was Tom, didn't have time to go burry him and then get to the Hoyt compound. So, it was Harris James? after he caught Tom, HJ found Dan in Tom's car? Harris framed the suicide and the took out Dan.
Again, I really liked the season but it just had to many parts that were poorly concluded.
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Posted on 2/25/19 at 10:30 am to Tiger Ryno
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Told his son not to tell his wife about the affair because it would hurt her even more.
Uh didn't he tell him the opposite
Posted on 2/25/19 at 10:32 am to spacewrangler
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Really have to feel bad for Roland in this scenario
The conclusion to all the scenes of him being grief-stricken is him falling in love with dogs. YEAH COOL
Posted on 2/25/19 at 10:35 am to MF Doom
What was the significance of the Roland and dog scene after the bar fight?
Was it ever confirmed that Roland was gay, or was that just an internet theory?
What was the point of starting a bar room brawl?
Was it ever confirmed that Roland was gay, or was that just an internet theory?
What was the point of starting a bar room brawl?
Posted on 2/25/19 at 10:47 am to Jack Daniel
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What was the significance of the Roland and dog scene after the bar fight?
To show why he had a bunch of dogs in the present. Stupid, yes.
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Was it ever confirmed that Roland was gay, or was that just an internet theory
Pizzo confirmed he wasn't.
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What was the point of starting a bar room brawl?
He was grief- stricken from Tom suicide and killing Harris James.
Tbh, alot of the Roland- Tom interactions feel kinda pointless now
Posted on 2/25/19 at 10:48 am to Jack Daniel
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What was the point of starting a bar room brawl?
I interpreted that as his way of punishing himself for letting Tom get killed and botching their last lead in locating Julie, knowing that group of bikers would beat the hell out of him.
Posted on 2/25/19 at 11:27 am to spacewrangler
I liked the finale.
Lots of stories go unresolved. Closure for many people and many tragedies never comes, just the passing of time makes them easier to bear.
I hate that Tom got no justice. I hate that Julie never knew her dad loved her. But Julie got to live a happy life.
I hate that Will was never avenged.
It was a messy, tragic story. That's how real life is sometimes.
Time heals most wounds. Sometimes, shite is just unresolved.
Lots of stories go unresolved. Closure for many people and many tragedies never comes, just the passing of time makes them easier to bear.
I hate that Tom got no justice. I hate that Julie never knew her dad loved her. But Julie got to live a happy life.
I hate that Will was never avenged.
It was a messy, tragic story. That's how real life is sometimes.
Time heals most wounds. Sometimes, shite is just unresolved.
Posted on 2/25/19 at 12:26 pm to JesusQuintana
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One question though. Why does Hays’ son place the address in his pocket at the end?
He's going to follow up on what the address is or give it to the reporter lady he's laying the pipe to.
Hays' son could follow it up because he is a detective as well. He drives an unmarked cop car. It's a Dodge and it's got the searchlight on the A pillar that can be operated from inside the car. You see it when they go to West's house and you see it up close when the son meets him at Julie's house in the finale.
On the other hand, he knows his dad's been chasing the case and that the address must be connected to it, so he could give it to the woman he's banging to get her closer to the story just like his dad did.
This post was edited on 2/25/19 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 2/25/19 at 12:46 pm to TigerstuckinMS
Did Wayne really have an episode when he's at Julie's? Or was he faking it to "leave her alone" and let her life her normal life in anonymity?
That's a good question. I think he was truly having an episode, and that brought tears. It is emotional, either way you read it.
That's a good question. I think he was truly having an episode, and that brought tears. It is emotional, either way you read it.
Posted on 2/25/19 at 1:51 pm to Dan Fratric
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What was the point of The very last scene of military wayne in the jungle?
I took this as him gaining some of his memories back, healing his mind.
Remember when Ghost Amelia says something like: "something repeats so much it fixes itself" I think she was referencing not only the case but his mind.
Posted on 2/25/19 at 2:14 pm to TigerstuckinMS
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quote: One question though. Why does Hays’ son place the address in his pocket at the end?
He's going to follow up on what the address is or give it to the reporter lady he's laying the pipe to.
Season 4: The reporter get a hold of the address and tracks down Julie. Gets her face out there and julie is back on the run.
Posted on 2/25/19 at 2:17 pm to wmr
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Did Wayne really have an episode when he's at Julie's? Or was he faking it to "leave her alone" and let her life her normal life in anonymity?
I've read this idea that he was faking it a few times now. I don't think that's it. Otherwise, why would he give his son the paper with the address on it? If Wayne wants Julie to be left alone, he surely would have just thrown the paper out.
Posted on 2/25/19 at 2:18 pm to GeauxBayouBengals
That was the best moment of the episode. After 35 years, he's standing face to face with Julie Purcell....and he has no idea who she is or why he's there.
Heartbreaking. But, also fitting. Leave Julie alone.
Heartbreaking. But, also fitting. Leave Julie alone.
Posted on 2/25/19 at 2:23 pm to Numberwang
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That was the best moment of the episode. After 35 years, he's standing face to face with Julie Purcell....and he has no idea who she is or why he's there.
Heartbreaking. But, also fitting. Leave Julie alone.
I thought it was intentional. Julie was finally living a happy life on her own terms. It was always about the girl. I thought he was pretending to be going through that to leave her alone.
Posted on 2/25/19 at 2:25 pm to PortCityTiger24
I thought that, too. Until he gives the address to his son, who is also a detective. If he wanted her left alone (deliberately) he would have not given him the address. I need to rewatch it.
My impression was that he genuinely forgot himself at first, then as he is face to face with her, he remembers, briefly.
It could be both.
My impression was that he genuinely forgot himself at first, then as he is face to face with her, he remembers, briefly.
It could be both.
Posted on 2/25/19 at 2:25 pm to Numberwang
I agree. Plus we see Julie in a much better spot than we could have imagined. She's surrounded by blooming flowers, signifying rebirth/new life. And I do think it was intentional to draw the parallel between Wayne and Julie with regard to having incomplete memories or gaps in their lives.
Posted on 2/25/19 at 2:32 pm to MF Doom
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Uh didn't he tell him the opposite
No, he told him that the only reason for telling her was to help his own conscience. He would only be taking his distress and pain and placing his burden on her.
Posted on 2/25/19 at 2:36 pm to Jack Daniel
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What was the significance of the Roland and dog scene after the bar fight?
That scene set up old man Roland with all the stray dogs. When he was at his lowest, that stray dog walked up to console him. I think he felt betrayed by all the people around him letting Tom down, including Purple. He didn't know that Purple was threatened, only that he quit abruptly.
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What was the point of starting a bar room brawl?
I think he was just pissed and looking to take out some anger. He also felt like he needed to be punished for letting down Tom and the kids. I think it was similar to old one-eye begging to be punished.
Posted on 2/25/19 at 2:47 pm to Numberwang
It's funny to me how so many on this board complain when an ending to a show is a spoon fed dumbed down most obvious conclusion but when a show actually leaves some things up in the air for interpretation just as many people get pissed.
Posted on 2/25/19 at 2:50 pm to Brummy
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I interpreted that as his way of punishing himself for letting Tom get killed and botching their last lead in locating Julie, knowing that group of bikers would beat the hell out of him.
100% This was made very clear by his way out-of-character insults of the innocent woman with the biker, knowing it take a lot to get that bigger guy to fight him. And knowing what a bad arse he is, Roland also knew he needed to pick a fight with uneven odds.
Totes wanted his arse kicked.
This post was edited on 2/25/19 at 2:52 pm
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