re: True Detective S1E7 "After You've Gone"

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those involved killed him off because they thought he was gonna be blackmailed when he revealed the tape was stolen.

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or was convinced to commit suicide like dude in prison...

there is a ton here:
Mega Spoilers here

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How did Billy Lee Tuttle die?

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Cohle proceeded to break into Tuttle’s houses. In one of them he found 15-year-old photographs of a blindfolded girl wearing antlers: Marie Fontenot. He also found the snuff film depicting her death. Tuttle killed himself shortly thereafter. He thought he was being blackmailed.

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What was the purpose behind all the kidnappings and killings?

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The implication? That ritualistic rape and murder, and the whole Yellow King/Carcosa mythology, was a Tuttle family tradition.

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Who are all the "big people" behind the cult?

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Sam Tuttle
Eddie Tuttle
Billy Lee Tuttle
Sheriff Childress
were all related.

Following the 5 Horseman theory I think the 5th man is Maggie's Father and Marty's FIL

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Why just kill two women in strange, ritualistic ways that is sure to be publicly discovered?

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I think the murders related directly to the cult's activities were purpose driven. I think the murders with public displays in 1995 and 2012 were Errol's doing it alone.

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I think the murders related directly to the cult's activities were purpose driven. I think the murders with public displays in 1995 and 2012 were Errol's doing it alone.

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I hadn't thought about this. Rust did make a comment that during the all the hurricanes the killer had great years. Hmmmm...

It also makes me wonder that if it was just Errol, why were the others not involved during that time? But were before?

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I think there was a cult but it died out. The murder in 1995 and the new murder in 2012 was Errol's work. I think we will find out that there is a reason for the time gap between the two

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It has said multiple times that there is more than one person doing the raping and kidnapping. The "scarred-man" does the worst things, apparently, but he is not alone. Guy Francis makes comment of "The Yellow King" and such in 2002. Rust finds the pictures of the wooden artifacts placed in the New Orleans area after Katrina, so that means stuff was happening in 2005. Sounds like some part of it is still active up until 2012.

Granted, I don't think they've presented much recent evidence of a larger group since Reggie Ledoux's death. Though, there is the new development of Geraci and the Childress sub-family of granddaddy Tuttle.

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but Hosanna Church turned Satanic at the top level and included child sex orgies, animal mutilation, and other similar themes.

Hosanna Church

Nevermind, just saw the post just a bit above.

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Rust is behind it all. His real name is Roger Childress-Ledoux. The real Rust Cohle actually dies in the DEA shootout, and "Rust" assumed his identity to get into LSP (notice that Childress just sucked it up when Rust slapped the frick out of him in the PD early in the series...he knows who's in charge). He iced Tuttle bc he got sloppy, then he took the evidence and gave Marty shitty latex gloves that would impart fingerprints. Now he's "hired" Marty's firm and - guess what - moved all of the evidence, including pitcures and videotapes that noone other than someone "involved" would have into Marty's office! I also think he's now going to redo the storage unit to make it look like he was building a case against Marty the whole time - genius.

Rust has been on the long con since the 80s because he was jealous of Marty's baseball career (Rust was clearly a bookish nerd in high school), so he fricked his wife, drove them into divorce (is probably turning out his daughters) and is going to have his cousin acid-face torture and kill him and frame Marty for it all. Sacrificing himself for a cause, you might say.

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Spoilers thread.

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5th man is Maggie's Father

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Ok so the Audrey thing is the only thing I am questioning. When Marty gets them for dinner (ep. 2 doll scene). Audrey is telling her sister that "she doesn't have a mommy or daddy. They were in an accident. A car accident."


Marty then enters the room and sees the dolls. WTF was she talking about?

Guilty.

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Are people saying that it is only one person? Didn't the video prove it was at least 5 people? And every single person that has recounted being molested has mentioned, if only in an indirect way, that there were multiple people involved in the abuse/murders. Now whether only 1 person did the 2005 and 2012 murder/body-posing is still debatable.

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I was responding to posts saying Errol had acted alone. I have also seen posts questioning how someone as "dumb as Errol" can commit these murders.


I personally believe this (copied from reddit), I think absolutely nothing will come from Audrey/Maggie/Maggies dad:
listen, i'm gonna keep this short. the case is the play. if you read it, it drives you mad, and you fricking die. hart and cohle are just one pair of investigators that have fallen victim to it. detectives key and peele are at the beginning of their own investigation (visiting the church with the black preacher) right now. they're the next to go mad. how many sets of dudes fell prey to this shite before hart and cohle? plenty. because time is a flat circle. the play/case has always existed. it will always exist, and it will always kill those who begin reading it. that's why it exists, to drive people mad. just like this show.

What's the name of the sheriff about to get the ole jumper cable treatment?