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re: True Detective S1E7 "After You've Gone"

Posted on 3/3/14 at 6:41 pm to
Posted by colston12
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 6:41 pm to
Audrey could still be the Lake Charles victim. I won't consider that tied up just yet, considering the timeline is only over a few days and the story is out of the newspapers. If she's not a vic, I hope they explain it a bit.

Maggie seems innocent, but she definitely has a dark side as well. She kinda has that angry look about her all the time, kinda like her dad. Speaking of red herrings, every scene so far has happened for a reason, there are no throw-aways, so I won't discount the dad yet either.

Is there any Childress/Tuttle relation to Maggie or Marty? IDK.
Posted by tigerswin03
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 6:49 pm to
quote:

Audrey could still be the Lake Charles victim.


wait..wut..... the lc murder that rust was seen at the crime scene ,wouldn't marty know about that , what am I missing...
This post was edited on 3/3/14 at 6:52 pm
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 6:51 pm to
quote:

Audrey could still be the Lake Charles victim. I won't consider that tied up just yet, considering the timeline is only over a few days and the story is out of the newspapers. If she's not a vic, I hope they explain it a bit.


Unless I'm mistaken about timelines or missing something somewhere (and someone please stop me if I am), Marty asks how his daughters are doing when he's with Maggie. She gives a very alive explanation of what each of them are doing at this point.

And that's not even touching on how Marty wouldn't be totally unhinged at this point if his daughter was the Lake Charles victim.
Posted by JMnola
Member since Oct 2012
599 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:13 pm to
Re-watching the episodes now. Wow i recommend everyone doing the same.

A few things I missed from E1:
-The block cops are pretty much drones of the system and think rust is 100% guilty from the start. Black cops appeared to suspect Rust planted the devils nest at Marie's uncle
-reverend Tuttle was introduced and known as the governors first cousin. Rust had a bad feeling about them from the beginning
-foreshadowing of rust slapping the current sheriff who's a bad guy
-the fontenot's all but dismissed the sheriffs claim that Marie fontenot was better off with the dad.

This show is amazing.
Posted by colston12
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:20 pm to
quote:

Unless I'm mistaken about timelines or missing something somewhere (and someone please stop me if I am), Marty asks how his daughters are doing when he's with Maggie. She gives a very alive explanation of what each of them are doing at this point.


This does happen, but that's assuming that Maggie talks to Audrey every day.

The Lake Charles victim is only a few days dead. The story isn't in the news yet either.

Audrey is:

off her meds
with a boyfriend (who is this boyfriend?)
some kind of artist?
has cult symbols in her room
sketched the masked guy at one time
threw the crown into the tree to symbolically protect the sister
made the rape scene with the dolls

If Audrey isn't the vic, how does her story tie up?
Posted by Mac
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:27 pm to
Man this thread is so much better this week without SFP participating.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:27 pm to
quote:

Audrey could still be the Lake Charles victim. I won't consider that tied up just yet, considering the timeline is only over a few days and the story is out of the newspapers. If she's not a vic, I hope they explain it a bit.


The Lake Charles vic is Stephanie Kordish, age 19, from Lake Charles.
This post was edited on 3/3/14 at 7:29 pm
Posted by Mac
Member since Nov 2007
14803 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:29 pm to
Someone mentioned it a few pages earlier and it was never addressed... why did Rust give Marty the gloves to watch the video? He wasn't preparing to touch anything. He took them off right after the watching the video.
Posted by JMnola
Member since Oct 2012
599 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:31 pm to
Interesting theory. Could be more they brought her character in to give Marty reasons to hate for these girls to get raped and killed.

And to also potray his shitty side of a father and how he has nothing to live for at the current state.

I think all the breaking bad hard asses are reading too much into this show. It's been pretty black & white so far.

(Not calling you a hard arse I like your theory, but I think it's too deep for this series)
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:31 pm to
quote:

If Audrey isn't the vic, how does her story tie up?


She's Marty's daughter and just another example of his life isn't this happy little family wrapped up in a pretty bow?

And that's aside from knowing she's isn't the Lake Charles vic. And that Marty has also seen the case file/pictures.
Posted by Gnar Cat21
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:37 pm to
quote:

Someone mentioned it a few pages earlier and it was never addressed... why did Rust give Marty the gloves to watch the video? He wasn't preparing to touch anything.



did he not give him the gloves before handling the pictures?
Posted by Slippy
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Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:41 pm to
I think there is a semi-big reveal coming in Ep 8 about Audrey, and perhaps Maggie and/or her father.

Remember that picture of Dora Lange and the five horsemen. She was a child. But she wasn't killed until years later. They do something with these little girls by initiating them into the rituals, knowing that they will one day be sacrificed. I think Audrey was somehow introduced to the rituals, but something happened over time (maybe grandpa left the cult) and she was spared.

Or maybe Putin is involved.
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12417 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:44 pm to
I didn't read through the entire thread so i will ask it now, the final scene had decisive focus on the barge. Is that telling us that is why the majority of the missing persons is along the bayou?
Posted by La Place Mike
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:48 pm to
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Interesting theory.
No. No it wasn't.
Posted by JMnola
Member since Oct 2012
599 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:49 pm to
Episode 2 stuff I missed:
-not sure if he's bad or not but Maggie's dad/Marty's FIL had some nice foreshadowing: "all girls wearing black and having sex" of course their daughter ends up doing all that.

-making those black cops look purposely dumb. The power is coming from within the force. They don't want these guys to catch them. They are setting up the black guys to catch Rust

-mandate for cops to review all of Marty and rusts notes. They feel like they are getting too close to the truth.

-major Marty/rust boss) getting a shitton of pressure to make a "quick arrest" or get new detectives (who are dumb) on the case. "Tuttle is lighting a fire without a suspect"
This post was edited on 3/3/14 at 7:56 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476599 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:08 pm to
quote:

Someone mentioned it a few pages earlier and it was never addressed... why did Rust give Marty the gloves to watch the video? He wasn't preparing to touch anything. He took them off right after the watching the video.

would you want your fingerprints on evidence from a robbery?

more importantly, would you want your fingerprints on a video of a child being molested?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476599 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:11 pm to
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Seems like a really, really quick change of heart.


it was

...pacing...
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25816 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:22 pm to
quote:

it was

...pacing...



You are super righteous.

Unfortunately, the finale seems less appealing for someone wanting a mind-blow. Just seems like Senator Tuttle and his evil offspring playing God with degenerates and cops.
Posted by Bayou Sam
Istanbul
Member since Aug 2009
5921 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:31 pm to
I think the audrey thing will be left as an open wound at the end for the "cosmic horror" effect...maybe ending with a creepy painting, as others have suggested.
Posted by Fontainebleau Dr.
Mid-View New Orleans
Member since Dec 2012
2401 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:32 pm to
I get the feeling that this story isn't going to "tie up."

"In this world, nothing is ever solved."

Pizzolatto has stated more than once that solving the crime is secondary to telling the story of the relationship between Hart & Cohle.

Not wrapping this up in a bow could ultimately be one of the show's strengths.
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