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re: True Detective S1E6 "Haunted Houses"
Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:50 am to Breesus
Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:50 am to Breesus
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What did you want her to do?
if we're talking about this and you're asking me how i'd write a character that wasn't an archetype of mygosiny, i'd have her leave her piece of shite husband and be independent
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Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:54 am to SlowFlowPro
what maggie did was basically take the OT advice for guys who have cheating GFs or wives. frick their sisters, best friends, etc.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:54 am to SlowFlowPro
Just jumped in the thread but is SFP bitching about the portrayal of women on True Detective?
Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:55 am to SlowFlowPro
That's reality dude. They had been married for over a decade and they had 2 daughters. How many people do you know like that that have problems or infidelity and come back to each other. It's not some kind of grand archtype of mygosiny. It's reality.
ETA:
if you have a problem with the way humans interact with each other that's one thing, but to say that's not reality or is some kind of warped view or women or men is to be ignorant.
ETA:
if you have a problem with the way humans interact with each other that's one thing, but to say that's not reality or is some kind of warped view or women or men is to be ignorant.
This post was edited on 2/24/14 at 8:59 am
Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:56 am to SlowFlowPro
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if we're talking about this and you're asking me how i'd write a character that wasn't an archetype of mygosiny, i'd have her leave her piece of shite husband and be independent
And then I'd criticize you for not knowing how to write for a woman in a marriage with a man that doesn't really know himself or what he wants. Or a woman in a marriage with kids that actually worked outside of the infedility. The anti-female criticism just seems like a really simplistic view of the character's actions.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:57 am to SlowFlowPro
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damn. another convert
No, I think they're going to wrap it up nicely. CoCo on the other hand was borderline offended last night. But that's just because she's so wrapped up in this show, she expects EVERY episode to be like #5.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:57 am to NIH
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what maggie did was basically take the OT advice for guys who have cheating GFs or wives. frick their sisters, best friends, etc.
pretty muchPosted on 2/24/14 at 8:58 am to Breesus
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It's not some kind of grand archtype of mygosiny. It's reality.
the same thing that happens to every man and wife. Reality.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:59 am to Stonehog
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Just jumped in the thread but is SFP bitching about the portrayal of women on True Detective?
more explaining why people are
i could give a shite at this point. as the story unfolds it's becoming more predictable/cliche/boring (whatever word you prefer to use based on your world view) so i'd fully expect a female to seek revenge via having sex with somebody
i never really gave that much of a shite about maggie the character ayway
Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:59 am to Prominentwon
fwiw, I NEED a gif when Tuttle asks Rust "what have you found on this?"
Rust reaction was priceless. Like "I got you motherfricker."
With that said it'd be a perfect "not sure if serious" gif.
Rust reaction was priceless. Like "I got you motherfricker."
With that said it'd be a perfect "not sure if serious" gif.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:59 am to SlowFlowPro
The writers are using Maggie's infidelity as a weapon against Marty - her character is trying to break free of the "Stepford Wife" motif she's been fighting against since the beginning. Last night was her "Alamo" scene.
The fact that they used sex as as a final act of her defiance was pretty typical, considering how women have been portrayed the entire series.
It is symbolism of the overriding theme of the show - the antiquated illusion of "owning women" that men like Marty cling to.
That theme plays heavily into the main storyline, because I assume that members of this secret society feel the same way about women and their perceived power over them.
So while I agree women appear weak in the show all the time, I think there is some redemption to be had in the end. We'll see.
The fact that they used sex as as a final act of her defiance was pretty typical, considering how women have been portrayed the entire series.
It is symbolism of the overriding theme of the show - the antiquated illusion of "owning women" that men like Marty cling to.
That theme plays heavily into the main storyline, because I assume that members of this secret society feel the same way about women and their perceived power over them.
So while I agree women appear weak in the show all the time, I think there is some redemption to be had in the end. We'll see.
This post was edited on 2/24/14 at 9:00 am
Posted on 2/24/14 at 9:02 am to Billy Mays
Posted on 2/24/14 at 9:02 am to SlowFlowPro
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i could give a shite at this point. as the story unfolds it's becoming more predictable/cliche/boring
I'll go with straightforward, since the other choices seem to have some inherent negativity in their uses.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 9:02 am to Prominentwon
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the same thing that happens to every man and wife. Reality.
i've handled a lot of divorces in my life, brotha...and psh @ this
it's tough having this discussion with people from an area of conservative social values, though
the best revenge is living well
Posted on 2/24/14 at 9:04 am to EarthwormJim
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I'll go with straightforward, since the other choices seem to have some inherent negativity in their uses.
hell using "Straightforward" last week would be the most negative of them all!
Posted on 2/24/14 at 9:04 am to Billy Mays
What in the wide world of phuck are you all talking about??? I believe this shows portrayal of certain women has been spot on and there is no adgenda. Prostitutes and low income women generally act just as they have been shown to act in this series. These are not women who's daddy's belonged to New Orleans CC. The doctor that Rust dated was not portrayed as weak. I think some of you are really reaching to complain about the way women are portrayed on this show.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 9:06 am to DanTiger
Do any of you look down the page to the Walking Dead thread and just go, "meh"?
Posted on 2/24/14 at 9:07 am to Billy Mays
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women appear weak
The first woman Marty fricked over informed his wife he was a cheater. And he cried then went back to her.
Then he quit alcohol and women. Only to relapse weakly and fall for a prostitute.
His children hate him, his wife crushed him, his. Partner left him and fricked his wife.
The men in the show arent exactly strong.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 9:08 am to DanTiger
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The doctor that Rust dated was not portrayed as weak
she got what? one line?
and 5 seconds of half cuddling on the couch?
Posted on 2/24/14 at 9:09 am to NIH
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Do any of you look down the page to the Walking Dead thread and just go, "meh"?
i accidentally end up there and can't believe people are still commenting en masse about that boring shite show
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