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re: True Detective S1E4 "Who Goes There"

Posted on 2/10/14 at 1:20 pm to
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 1:20 pm to
Charlie Lange wasn't lying about not wanting to piss this dude off.


Also, the Grantland article on last nights show is a duzzy.

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For those immune to the show’s moody, macho charms, the episode probably did little to move the needle — a needle that was only injecting a mix of ink and cayenne, anyway. As I’ve made clear (and won’t belabor again), I’m very much in this latter camp. “Who Goes There” was the last of the episodes I had a chance to see before writing my preview of the series, and while I admired the Night of the Hunter S. Thompson gonzo anarchy of the final 15 minutes, it didn’t bring me back onboard. To be honest, it pushed me further away. Wild leaps are fantastic, but not when you haven’t built a solid foundation to land on when you inevitably come back down. (For what it’s worth, I’ve also written at length about how, personal taste and content aside, True Detective represents something truly exciting for the future of TV storytelling and the industry as a whole.)


6 Questions for the 2nd half of TD.
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 1:22 pm to
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 1:28 pm to
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Hell, maybe when she was set up like that, there was some big ritual taking place and several people were there.


Possibly but she was not killed at that location. Someone had to drag her there across a cane field. Likely was transported nearby by vehicle before that. Only saw one person in that first scene.
Posted by CoCo311
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 1:29 pm to
Every time I look in the mirror......
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 1:30 pm to
Rust makes note in the pilot that she was on her back for awhile.
Posted by TROLA
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 1:31 pm to
Id say this brings a little more validity to the girls story about being chased..



Posted by CoCo311
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 1:34 pm to
I meant that more in the sense of saying he/she is the killer is a little misleading because it seems to be more an act of this cult as a whole, and not just one singular person working alone.
Posted by Billy Mays
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 1:46 pm to
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Id say this brings a little more validity to the girls story about being chased..


Yes ... Ledoux's face + someone under the influence of Ledoux's drugs = demonic figure provided to the sketch artist.

Billy Lee Tuttle is using Ledoux for his drugs (and probably as a fall guy).
This post was edited on 2/10/14 at 1:50 pm
Posted by Billy Mays
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 1:55 pm to
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For those immune to the show’s moody, macho charms, the episode probably did little to move the needle — a needle that was only injecting a mix of ink and cayenne, anyway. As I’ve made clear (and won’t belabor again), I’m very much in this latter camp. “Who Goes There” was the last of the episodes I had a chance to see before writing my preview of the series, and while I admired the Night of the Hunter S. Thompson gonzo anarchy of the final 15 minutes, it didn’t bring me back onboard. To be honest, it pushed me further away. Wild leaps are fantastic, but not when you haven’t built a solid foundation to land on when you inevitably come back down. (For what it’s worth, I’ve also written at length about how, personal taste and content aside, True Detective represents something truly exciting for the future of TV storytelling and the industry as a whole.)


I think it's a fair assessment. The show isn't perfect and the final scene was a bit ridiculous. I love the show but to blindly bow down to all of its minutia isn't something I care to do.

And if we are going to spend multiple episodes (and injecting this silly biker gang into the mix) trying to find Reggie Ledoux it might be a complete waste considering nobody actually believe he's the mastermind behind the murders.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 2:01 pm to
Tall dude with a burned face makes sense with that pic now, but I'm curious as hell what the green ear thing is.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 2:09 pm to
666 tat on REggies neck.
Posted by Oizers
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 2:14 pm to
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My theory on how this plays out. They find Reggie. Kill Reggie in a shoot out (that has been mentioned). Everything gets pinned on Reggie. Rust isn't satisfied with this outcome. Never gives up on case. Marty gets fed up, que fall out. Fast forward to 2012, new murder happens. Powers that be steer new detectives to Rust. After that, who knows.


I agree. In 2012, someone has probably assumed Reggie's role and continued the cult killings/sacrifices. I imagine the killings are done in accordance with the cult beliefs so anyone could pick up where Reggie left off. Rust probably knew Reggie was responsible for the 90s killings, but realized there were more powerful people behind it all who needed to be stopped.
Posted by LSUSilverfox
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 2:16 pm to
So this cultish group took 17 years off from sacrificing/killing hookers and kids?
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 2:25 pm to
Read more of the Grantland article when you get a chance. It turns political [Saying that the women in this show have no depth or control over situations in their lives].
Posted by CoCo311
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 2:28 pm to
Unlikely, just as it's unlikely Dora was their first. They just chose times to make statements, I think.
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 2:33 pm to
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but I'm curious as hell what the green ear thing is.


Posted by Itismemc
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 2:34 pm to
My kids using True Detective Valentines cards this year at school.

Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 2:36 pm to
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ad more of the Grantland article when you get a chance. It turns political [Saying that the women in this show have no depth or control over situations in their lives].


no thanks.
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 2:40 pm to
The WSJ review "We were in those rooms and running with those characters. That in effect, we experienced something real."

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Observe how Rust Cohle is framed in the interview: Between a decommissioned IBM electric typewriter and ancient desktop computer. Like the hardware, Rust is a relic. I suspect that the 2012 interrogations are as much about generational transition as they are the suspicion of foul play. Actors Michael Potts and Tony Kittles, who play Det. Maynard Gilbough and Det. Thomas Papania, respectively, deserve attention for remaining cryptic throughout. But they’re both performing, not just sitting stone faced and passive. The younger Papania can barely contain his frustration with our heroes while Potts wears the weariness of a man who has dealt with two many old guys from “back-in-the-day” to bother getting angry at any obfuscation.
This post was edited on 2/10/14 at 2:41 pm
Posted by BOSCEAUX
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 2:40 pm to
Part of the mask when it's not on his face?
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