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re: True Detective S1E08 "Form And Void"
Posted on 3/10/14 at 7:37 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 3/10/14 at 7:37 pm to SlowFlowPro
I love how NP shite all over the amateur hour display that SFP has been ranting on the last three weeks.
The post show interviews really nail his lard (lord) arse to a tree, calling out the type of veiwer he is.
The post show interviews really nail his lard (lord) arse to a tree, calling out the type of veiwer he is.
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 7:37 pm to SlowFlowPro
I love how NP shite all over the amateur hour display that SFP has been ranting on the last three weeks.
The post show interviews really nail his lard (lord) arse to a tree, calling out the type of veiwer he is.
The post show interviews really nail his lard (lord) arse to a tree, calling out the type of veiwer he is.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 7:38 pm to Sevendust912
Posted on 3/10/14 at 7:44 pm to Prosecuted Collins
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I love how NP shite all over the amateur hour display that SFP has been ranting on the last three weeks.
wut. what i said would happen did happen
i addressed my concerns to people posting about the plot/cult, not to the writer
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calling out the type of veiwer he is.
i've spoken about both angles of viewing the show. neither were really anything special
one is severely incomplete
the other is cliche'd, uninteresting after initial shock , and without any character development (which is a problem for a character study)
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 7:45 pm
Posted on 3/10/14 at 7:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
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pretty much any question about the cult/group (motivation, history, explanation, connection with the yellow king, members, splinter groups, symbolism, etc)
which specific questions do you have about these things?
Posted on 3/10/14 at 7:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
For some reason, the "Hate" version of the chick in that photo looks happier than the "Love" version.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 7:49 pm to Lester Earl
here are some specific questions about the muder of dora lange alone (previously posted):
quote:
Why kill her?
Why use her in a ritual?
What was the ritual for?
What did all the "stuff" on/around her mean?
Who was actually involved in the killing? Display?
What role did the drugs play?
Why Ledoux?
Was this only for errol or was this part of the entire clan?
Posted on 3/10/14 at 7:50 pm to Methuselah
it looks like picc in emo
Posted on 3/10/14 at 7:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
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but that was the site of all the rituals
we have no data to back this up
that wasn't even where the family was from, i dont' think. i thought the family was from more north and central...not SWLA
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Childress lured Cohle into his ascension chamber — the staging area for so many murders, and last night, a stage for an ancient ritual, the oldest story of all.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 8:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
Would that you had eyes to see!
Posted on 3/10/14 at 8:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
Why kill her?
-- why lange in particular? he sacrifices people as part of his weird religion.
Why use her in a ritual?
it's a sacrifice.
What was the ritual for?
something to do with errol's own quest for transcendence
What did all the "stuff" on/around her mean?
the antlers were from the previous cult. it's unclear what they mean. The spiral--time is a flat circle.
Who was actually involved in the killing? Display?
Lange was Errol. Marie Fontenot was the larger cult.
What role did the drugs play?
Made them willing / submissive.
Why Ledoux?
Ledoux was an acolyte of Errol.
Was this only for errol or was this part of the entire clan?
This was for Errol. He's the one that innovated by displaying the women. This is what freaked out Tuttle to begin with--he was airing their dirty laundry as it were.
-- why lange in particular? he sacrifices people as part of his weird religion.
Why use her in a ritual?
it's a sacrifice.
What was the ritual for?
something to do with errol's own quest for transcendence
What did all the "stuff" on/around her mean?
the antlers were from the previous cult. it's unclear what they mean. The spiral--time is a flat circle.
Who was actually involved in the killing? Display?
Lange was Errol. Marie Fontenot was the larger cult.
What role did the drugs play?
Made them willing / submissive.
Why Ledoux?
Ledoux was an acolyte of Errol.
Was this only for errol or was this part of the entire clan?
This was for Errol. He's the one that innovated by displaying the women. This is what freaked out Tuttle to begin with--he was airing their dirty laundry as it were.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 8:08 pm to Bayou Sam
no way those answers are good enough
Posted on 3/10/14 at 8:09 pm to Bayou Sam
quote:
Why kill her? -- why lange in particular? he sacrifices people as part of his weird religion. Why use her in a ritual? it's a sacrifice. What was the ritual for? something to do with errol's own quest for transcendence What did all the "stuff" on/around her mean? the antlers were from the previous cult. it's unclear what they mean. The spiral--time is a flat circle. Who was actually involved in the killing? Display? Lange was Errol. Marie Fontenot was the larger cult. What role did the drugs play? Made them willing / submissive. Why Ledoux? Ledoux was an acolyte of Errol. Was this only for errol or was this part of the entire clan? This was for Errol. He's the one that innovated by displaying the women. This is what freaked out Tuttle to begin with--he was airing their dirty laundry as it were.
That's about what I concluded.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 8:14 pm to Lester Earl
What we really need to know is how the state police knew where to find them. I mean Marty had a gun pointed to the woman's head and was demanding a phone, but we never saw what happened. All we can do is guess. It is unbelievable they would just leave that dangling out there.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 8:15 pm to MOT
Posted on 3/10/14 at 8:15 pm to Lester Earl
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no way those answers are good enough
there is a ton of huge guessing and non-responsive answers. what evidence do we have that there was a splinter? i mean one iota of legit evidence?
Posted on 3/10/14 at 8:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
there is a ton of huge guessing and non-responsive answers.
because i think in the end, every one of those questions were inconsequential. Like the gentleman answered, some were directly answered, and i feel others were just understood. Had they been more important, they would have been focused on more.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 8:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
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what evidence do we have that there was a splinter?
1. It didn't happen before.
2. Tuttle was surprised by it (task force)
3. E says in the last episode that he hasn't left "his mark" in a few weeks -- referring to the last lange-like killing
4. E says he's doing his own thing in the last episode.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 8:24 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
every one of those questions were inconsequential.
to what exactly? b/c the plot/story didn't matter in the end? fine
like i said, if this is about characters...fine. i've brought up that angle multiple times and it seems to come down to "rust was cool" in the end
Posted on 3/10/14 at 8:27 pm to Bayou Sam
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1. It didn't happen before.
we're not 100% sure of this. it may not have been as elaborate, or it may not have been discovered until decomp, etc
quote:
2. Tuttle was surprised by it (task force)
i saw the task force as a way to control the investigation to insulate himself. i don't think this indicate surprise
quote:
3. E says in the last episode that he hasn't left "his mark" in a few weeks -- referring to the last lange-like killing
and we have no clue whether this was part of a bigger scheme or not. it's likely that he was complaining b/c he wasn't being allowed to kill another by the higher ups. that's just as plausible
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4. E says he's doing his own thing in the last episode.
which part? i'll re-watch later tonight
he calls ledoux, etc his accolytes, but that may just be b/c they're in the lower rung of the cult (as he is the accolyte of another i'm sure)...or b/c they are in the cult at all
there are perfectly reasonable explanations that fit within the data that completely oppose your suggestions. in reality, none of the suggestions can be right, b/c there isn't enough to establish any of them directly
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