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re: True Detective S1E08 "Form And Void"

Posted on 3/9/14 at 9:52 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/9/14 at 9:52 pm to
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While most were focused on the actual crime, the real theme was the relationships between the leads.

yup that's why everybody was freaking out after episode 1
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 3/9/14 at 9:52 pm to
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This show was about rust and cohle everything else was a back drop to show their evolution and relationship.


Yep. The last ten minutes made it pretty clear.
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 3/9/14 at 9:53 pm to
Episodes 6 and 7 were almost throw away episodes.
Posted by jefforize
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 3/9/14 at 9:54 pm to
Perhaps the Childress on duty at the jail killed Guy Frances , and fudged the video to make it look like a suicide.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/9/14 at 9:54 pm to
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Did they tho? Or did internet message boards look too deep into it?

um...the cult's symbolism and the whole carcosa/yellow king angle wasn't created by internet message board posters

quote:

This show was about rust and cohle

rust had nothing happen after episode 2 that was worth a shite until the final 10 minutes (and he was so unrealistic it wasn't really worth putting too much thought into)

marty was the same guy for 6 episodes and 2 episodes (and he wasn't really interesting regardless)

so even that cop out fails
Posted by DosManos
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 3/9/14 at 9:55 pm to
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Did they tho? Or did internet message boards look too deep into it?

I think a bit of both. I think people overreacted because we've been accustomed to crazy arse plot twists.
I'm just trying to view the show as a cool spin on the cop procedural genre.
Posted by glassman
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/9/14 at 9:55 pm to
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a nice little bow.


Why even wish that? The show is different. Every episode written by one person and every show directed by the same person. It is more like a movie than an episodal TV show.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 3/9/14 at 9:55 pm to
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without knowing anything about the cult


What did you want? Papania reading a secret cult manual listing the complete history and all of the members names addresses and phone number?

We know a lot about the cult
Posted by chrisksaint
Florida
Member since Jul 2011
1712 posts
Posted on 3/9/14 at 9:55 pm to
I think the whole Daughter rape thing was included to show the innocence of children and how it relates to Marty. I feel like it's no coincidence that Marty took everything going on in this case the hardest of everyone.

He quit cause of the baby in the microwave thing, beat the shite out of the guys that had sex with his daughter, flipped out when he saw the tape, shot the dude in the head when he discovered those 2 kids, and his face looked terrified as he saw those piles of clothes in the final episode.
Posted by tigerswin03
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/9/14 at 9:55 pm to
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Errol's mom/gf/sister made a comment that "he was the worst one". I don't think Errol is the mastermind behind the entire operation just that he got the most into it probably bc of some form of mental retardation. All I will say is you would be surprised the amount of knowledge handicapped individuals can gather on a topic they enjoy. Most of them think about it constantly. I certainly can believe that Errol was capable of everything they showed.


he was the guy who killed dora lang and like marty said after rust says we didn't get them all , yea but we got our guy....

there is no doubt there will be another season with this story ..... at least at some point ....

also I wouldn't doubt because of the popularity of the show that we will find out they changed the ending .... im thinking rust was set to die originally ......



all in all I thought it was a great ending and some of the best tv I have ever watched....
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476126 posts
Posted on 3/9/14 at 9:55 pm to
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Episodes 6 and 7 were almost throw away episodes.

following episode 6 was exactly when i became the villain
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476126 posts
Posted on 3/9/14 at 9:57 pm to
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We know a lot about the cult

why do they use occult symbolism?

why did they sacrifice dora lange and the LC victim?

what is the connection between the cult and the yellow king mythology?
Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
20200 posts
Posted on 3/9/14 at 9:58 pm to
Why do we need answers to those questions?
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
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Posted on 3/9/14 at 9:59 pm to
You need to start asking the right fudging que$tions!
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
30952 posts
Posted on 3/9/14 at 9:59 pm to
quote:

why did they sacrifice dora lange and the LC victim?

Did they? Or was that Errol doing his own thing?
Posted by LsufreaK10
Bossier City La
Member since Dec 2007
536 posts
Posted on 3/9/14 at 10:00 pm to
hiltacular, check your email real quick if you have time
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476126 posts
Posted on 3/9/14 at 10:01 pm to
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Why do we need answers to those questions?

if i had told people after episode 2 that the questions wouldn't be answered, almost everyone would have quit watching

and the only people who would have kept watching would only watch to prove me wrong
Posted by jefforize
Member since Feb 2008
45891 posts
Posted on 3/9/14 at 10:01 pm to
Use some imagination man. Surely you dont need everything spelled out and spoonfed.

the simplest answer is..they did it because they could
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160203 posts
Posted on 3/9/14 at 10:01 pm to
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he was the guy who killed dora lang and like marty said after rust says we didn't get them all , yea but we got our guy....




Right, that's the way I see it. It's widespread, throughout South Louisiana, it took Rust and Marty like 20 years to get a few of them but I don't think they expect us to think it's over. Rust even says it isn't.


I don't know if they'll ever go back to this story though.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476126 posts
Posted on 3/9/14 at 10:01 pm to
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You need to start asking the right fudging que$tions!

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