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re: Top 25 expensive movie flops
Posted on 12/29/25 at 8:57 am to hawgfaninc
Posted on 12/29/25 at 8:57 am to hawgfaninc
quote:as a father of daughters, we all liked that movie...oh well.
16. Turning Red (2022) - Loss: $179M
Posted on 12/29/25 at 9:11 am to hawgfaninc
I actually like John Carter and Jungle Cruise 
Posted on 12/29/25 at 9:13 am to hawgfaninc
John Carter is better than all of those other films combined. While the marketing was the biggest culprit in its downfall, the feeding frenzy of the press and moviegoers who couldn't wait to celebrate it as being a "bomb" (before any of them had seen it) is still keeping it from getting an audience (as seen in this thread).
Posted on 12/29/25 at 10:04 am to hawgfaninc
John Carter is a great movie.
Posted on 12/29/25 at 10:15 am to hawgfaninc
Man, John Carter was done so dirty. That movie could have made gobs of money if marketed well.
Posted on 12/29/25 at 10:22 am to Ace Midnight
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there is no way the last Indiana Jones movie didn't lose at least $200m
What are you talking about? The Last Crusade was a box office hit.
This post was edited on 12/29/25 at 10:26 am
Posted on 12/29/25 at 10:49 am to hawgfaninc
It's funny that the only movie on that list that I feel really didn't deserve to be the financial disaster that it was is #1. John Carter was a good and entertaining movie.
Posted on 12/29/25 at 10:57 am to hawgfaninc
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1. John Carter (2012) - Loss: $255M
4. The 13th Warrior (1999) - Loss: $243M
5. Mortal Engines (2018) - Loss: $219M
6. Cutthroat Island (1995) - Loss: $217M 11. Mars Needs Moms (2011) - Loss: $201M
13. Tomorrowland (2015) - Loss: $199M
14. King Arthur: Legend of the Sword (2017) - Loss: $197M
15. Titan A.E. (2000) - Loss: $183M.
17. Jungle Cruise (2021) - Loss: $174M
21. Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within (2001) - Loss: $167M
24. Monster Trucks (2016) - Loss: $161M
25. The Flash (2023) - Loss: $160M
The above are not that bad. The bolded ones are good to decent.
John Carter is a great family adventure movie. 13th Warrior is good.
This post was edited on 12/29/25 at 10:59 am
Posted on 12/29/25 at 11:21 am to LoveThatMoney
quote:The salt in the wound is this list coming out now, while Avatar is #1 at the Box Office. A franchise completely built on the premise of the John Carter of Mars books.
Man, John Carter was done so dirty. That movie could have made gobs of money if marketed well.
Posted on 12/29/25 at 11:32 am to hawgfaninc
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1. John Carter (2012) - Loss: $255M
10. Battleship (2012) - Loss: $205M
Damn Taylor Kitsch got two in the top 10.
Posted on 12/29/25 at 12:36 pm to hawgfaninc
quote:I know a woman who did stunts in this movie.
4. The 13th Warrior (1999) - Loss: $243M
Also, fricking blasphemy. That movie is awesome.
Posted on 12/29/25 at 12:39 pm to LoveThatMoney
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Man, John Carter was done so dirty. That movie could have made gobs of money if marketed well.
Certainly makes you wonder where Taylor Kitch’s career would be had it not flopped too.
Posted on 12/29/25 at 12:46 pm to hawgfaninc
Monster Trucks is one of the most fun movies to watch with kids under the age of 10. It really is a solid action flick, funny, and has a clever plot device.
Not a masterpiece, but it's a good rainy afternoon, for sure.
Not a masterpiece, but it's a good rainy afternoon, for sure.
Posted on 12/29/25 at 1:06 pm to hawgfaninc
The 13th Warrior is based on Michael Crighton's book The Eaters of the Dead, which is an adaptation of Beowulf. The director actually went on record saying that he wanted Michael Keaton instead of Antonio Banderas.
It's been over 25 years since it came out, and if it were on a tv while I was passing by...I would stop to watch it. It seems like people either loved it or hated it. I'm in the "loved it" group. It was far from perfect, but it's a good damn story, and I liked it.
It's been over 25 years since it came out, and if it were on a tv while I was passing by...I would stop to watch it. It seems like people either loved it or hated it. I'm in the "loved it" group. It was far from perfect, but it's a good damn story, and I liked it.
Posted on 12/29/25 at 1:08 pm to hawgfaninc
7 of the 25 are since the start of the pandemic

Posted on 12/29/25 at 1:16 pm to Roaad
Battlefield is a solid movie. I’ve watched several times.
Posted on 12/29/25 at 1:19 pm to Indiana Tiger
They should rename & market John Carter and re-release it. It’s better than the vast majority of crap in theaters today. It’s like there’s pressure to just call it “not bad” due to its losses, but in reality it’s a damn good movie.
Posted on 12/29/25 at 1:24 pm to hawgfaninc
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Mars Needs Moms
There is no way this is a real movie, right?
Ironically, they re-released it as a porno and made a ton
Posted on 12/29/25 at 3:34 pm to hawgfaninc
I'm sad to see battleship on there. That movie was awesome! 
Posted on 12/29/25 at 3:36 pm to hawgfaninc
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9. Joker: Folie à Deux (2024) - Loss: $206M
I'm a bit skeptical that it lost this much. Why would that very simple movie, set in a prison and courtroom, cost over 200 mil to make?
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