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Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 5:46 pm to
good. dont look anything up
Posted by A2
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:12 pm to
And that's a TD list of the best movies.

Better exercise than most movie/tv boards.

Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 10:20 pm to
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The trailer has some weird looking shite. Like strange-looking characters, giant bugs, etc. Just too weird for me. I really have no idea what the movie's actually about.



I didn't either. Go in as blind as possible. It was #2 on my list for a reason. An absolute masterpiece by every single standard. Probably the darkest and most high grade fantasy ever made, fantastic setting, a horrifying villain, and fantastic performances. You're not going to be thinking of giant bugs when you finish it.
Posted by beauchristopher
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 8:14 am to
dang can't believe coming to america just missed. good stuff.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:58 am to
One of the best child acting performances of all time too.
Posted by Old Money
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Posted on 11/13/13 at 4:00 am to
Just watched Terminator 2 again since it was on Netflix. The ending
Posted by GCTiger11
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Posted on 11/15/13 at 3:24 am to
I'm making an effort to watch every movie on this list. I've seen a lot of them so don't think I'll spend any time watching them again. Also a lot of ones I haven't seen on here like Pan's Labyrinth so I'm excited to watch those.

This post was edited on 11/15/13 at 3:32 am
Posted by flvelo12
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Posted on 11/15/13 at 3:57 pm to
Looking back over the list - wow, only one Woody Allen film (Annie Hall). I seem to recall he is viewed somewhat negatively on this board, but Crimes and Misdemeanors, in my humble opinion, is a perfect movie.
This post was edited on 11/15/13 at 6:20 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 11/15/13 at 5:43 pm to
Honestly, Woody Allen is almost without question the most overrated filmmaker of all time. None of his films are particularly great. I'd rather watch squirrels frick than a Woody Allen movie. Yeah, I said it.
This post was edited on 11/15/13 at 5:46 pm
Posted by inadaze
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Posted on 11/16/13 at 6:36 am to
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Honestly, Woody Allen is almost without question the most overrated filmmaker of all time.


I've heard so many people say this in recent years that it almost doesn't even seem appropriate to use the word overrated anymore. And it seems like people that don't like him, really don't like him for some reason. It seems to be more disdain than indifference.

I haven't really cared for his recent work, but I think he made some good movies in the 70s & 80s. It probably has a lot to do with where I was at in my life when I started watching his stuff. I found some comic relief in many of his films during some dark times in college when I let go of my religion.
This post was edited on 11/16/13 at 6:50 am
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 11/16/13 at 11:49 am to
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Honestly, Woody Allen is almost without question the most overrated filmmaker of all time. None of his films are particularly great. I'd rather watch squirrels frick than a Woody Allen movie. Yeah, I said it.


Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/16/13 at 12:37 pm to
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I've heard so many people say this in recent years that it almost doesn't even seem appropriate to use the word overrated anymore. And it seems like people that don't like him, really don't like him for some reason. It seems to be more disdain than indifference.


Actually the view expressed by OMLandshark is the majority view on this board. He makes a movie about every 12-18 months and over the last 25-30 years most of them have not been very good. Some on this board (iwy and I have discussed it before) think this should hurt his overall ranking as a director and I can't entirely disagree. I haven't seen most of them, but a few (Midnight in Paris, Deconstructing Harry, Bullets over Broadway) have been very good.

Clearly his peak, which is what I judge, was the 70's and 80's. His most critically acclaimed movies, dramodies, like Annie Hall, Manhattan, Hannah and her Sister, many say haven't aged well. I was never a fan of HAHS, but I love Annie Hall and Manhattan. To me Annie Hall captures the 70's quite well and if it is not appreciated in the future, that's too bad imo.

His early work was more pure comedy I think is his best work. Everything you wanted to know about Sex, Bananas, Sleeper and one of my faves, the underrated Take the Money and Run. 1 of the first "mockumentaries" is hilarious.


Posted by Freauxzen
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Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 11/18/13 at 9:42 am to
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I'm making an effort to watch every movie on this list. I've seen a lot of them so don't think I'll spend any time watching them again. Also a lot of ones I haven't seen on here like Pan's Labyrinth so I'm excited to watch those.


Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 11/18/13 at 9:44 am to
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Actually the view expressed by OMLandshark is the majority view on this board. He makes a movie about every 12-18 months and over the last 25-30 years most of them have not been very good. Some on this board (iwy and I have discussed it before) think this should hurt his overall ranking as a director and I can't entirely disagree. I haven't seen most of them, but a few (Midnight in Paris, Deconstructing Harry, Bullets over Broadway) have been very good.


While I agree, I think only Deconstructing Harry (and the aforementioned Annie Hall) are worthy of Top Film discussion.

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Clearly his peak, which is what I judge, was the 70's and 80's. His most critically acclaimed movies, dramodies, like Annie Hall, Manhattan, Hannah and her Sister, many say haven't aged well. I was never a fan of HAHS, but I love Annie Hall and Manhattan. To me Annie Hall captures the 70's quite well and if it is not appreciated in the future, that's too bad imo.

His early work was more pure comedy I think is his best work. Everything you wanted to know about Sex, Bananas, Sleeper and one of my faves, the underrated Take the Money and Run. 1 of the first "mockumentaries" is hilarious.


I just hesitate to call any film out of those two "Great," and while he makes good weird and/or comedies, he just isn't that innovative. And, I'm not sure if this would ever work, but his inability to either figure out a way to not cast himself, or cast someone else, during that time really gets in the way. His personality in those films is grating, and hard to look past. (The reason Annie Hall and DH work so well is because that character is necessary. I'm not so sure about that in the rest).
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/18/13 at 8:53 pm to
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Deconstructing Harry (and the aforementioned Annie Hall) are worthy of Top Film discussion.


Interesting that put DH up there. That one doesn't seem to get as much praise. Personally I'd put it 3rd of the 3 more "recent" ones I mentioned. Bullets over Broadway would be in my top 2-3 of his films. Chazz Palmenteri just kills it in that movie.

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I just hesitate to call any film out of those two "Great," and while he makes good weird and/or comedies, he just isn't that innovative


That's fair. Maybe it is a generational thing. At the time I saw Take the Money and Run, Everything About Sex, Bananas, I thought they were pretty damn funny. I do think Take the Money was innovative for its time but admittedly it has been surpassed.

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And, I'm not sure if this would ever work, but his inability to either figure out a way to not cast himself, or cast someone else, during that time really gets in the way. His personality in those films is grating, and hard to look past. (The reason Annie Hall and DH work so well is because that character is necessary. I'm not so sure about that in the rest).


I don't think it was an inability, but rather by design that he basically had himself in the main role. John Cusack and Owen Wilson play that role in BOB and MIP. I can't argue with you that the WA character was better suited to AH and DH.
This post was edited on 11/18/13 at 8:54 pm
Posted by barbarajones
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 11/19/13 at 7:01 am to
Most of these are old movie they were really good in their time when there was not much advanced technology.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
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Posted on 11/19/13 at 8:30 am to
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Most of these are old movie they were really good in their time when there was not much advanced technology.


Posted by flvelo12
Palm Harbor, Florida
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Posted on 11/19/13 at 4:02 pm to
I guess you have to be an oldster to be a Woody Allen fan.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 11/19/13 at 5:01 pm to
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Most of these are old movie they were really good in their time when there was not much advanced technology


THANK YOU
Finally somebody who gets me
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
4872 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 2:12 am to
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I'm not sure if this would ever work, but his inability to either figure out a way to not cast himself, or cast someone else, during that time really gets in the way.


I actually liked his role the most in the films from the 70s & 80s, but one thing that I don't like about his recent work is that I can feel Allen's direction coming through too much when he doesn't cast himself (e.g., Larry David in Whatever Works).

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His personality in those films is grating, and hard to look past.


There it is again.

What is it about his personality that you find grating?
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