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re: tOfficial Better Call Saul Season 6 Episode 1 and 2 Thread (Page 15/16 spoil zone)
Posted on 4/19/22 at 12:57 pm to DukeSilver
Posted on 4/19/22 at 12:57 pm to DukeSilver
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So Kim's tequila topper was at Saul's house, he wouldn't have brought that there presumably so she is at least with him/around long enough for him to get enough money and move in to that house.
Nah, I think the topper is something that Saul was holding on to remember Kim...whether she is dead or (and more likely) didnt like what she had become and where she was headed with him, and gets out before the BB arc begins.
Probably running a bar somewhere for the BB arc and onward
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 1:00 pm to DomincDecoco
I disagree its something Saul would hang on to. They've shown Kim go back for it when she quit her last job, so they've established it's something Kim takes with her.
Guess we'll see.
Guess we'll see.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 1:09 pm to DukeSilver
I think of it like her choosing to go bad and taking it a symbol...then when she renounces that life, leaves it behind.
indeed, it will be great regardless
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Guess we'll see.
indeed, it will be great regardless
Posted on 4/19/22 at 1:17 pm to DomincDecoco
This is going to be my go-to TD thread for the next few months. I love the discussion here. Enjoy the ride these next few months gents.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 1:56 pm to Slippy
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We will not see the vacuum man again. Robert Forster died during the filming of season 5.
They may call him, but we won’t see him.
Boooo. What in interesting character. I liked him.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 2:02 pm to Cow Drogo
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What was the objective with Mike cracking nachos safe then replacing it with a duplicate?
They inserted that envelope which had the phone number of the hotel Nacho was holed up in. It led the Salamancas (Bossa) to Nacho.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 2:14 pm to Walking the Earth
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I am leaning towards his final tipping point being the separation of Kim and him for reasons yet unknown.
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Kim seems to really be giving Saul the side eye everytime he uses some of the cartel money so it doesn't seem like they're drawing her up to ever be onboard with being part of that life.
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She does borderline or even flat out unethical things but her motivation is to have the freedom to do pro bono work as her full time job whereas Saul Goodman and Associates definitely do not seem to be heavy into pro bono work.
I get a bad feeling about Kim. She seems even more vindictive and capable of real malice than Jimmy. I suspect she "Breaks Bad" far worse than Jimmy. I predict she is in the Federal Pen during BB. Saul is able to avoid conviction most probably surrounding what they do (try to do) to Howard. Probably because she does it and Jimmy does not.
I took her sideways glances when he grabbed the money for the Kettlemens as her 1) knowing it wouldn't work with Betsy and 2) not wanting to give up the money. Kim is manipulating Saul into ruining Howard, for what? Howard mentored her, paid for her law school, treated her very fairly.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 2:54 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
For those that think an image or comment in season one presage where Jimmy and Kim end up;
You mentioned the Zafiro Añejo tequila bottle stopper, which first appeared in “Switch,” the season two premiere. It strikes me that when you’re making a pilot, you always assume that a pilot is going to be important and that you’d be nodding back to it throughout, but it’s feeling more and more like “Switch” might actually be this show’s pivotal episode. Did you realize at the time that it was a change of direction and that it was going to be so crucial?
No. I think any question that you ask me, “Did you know …,” I’m going to answer “No.” For both shows, there’s a process involved, a process of discovery. It’s more looking deeper and deeper into the characters. I think that what we realized after season one was that we had this character Kim Wexler, as played by Rhea Seehorn, who fascinated us, and it amazed us that Jimmy had this person in his life. That relationship became very central to the show. That was not something — you talk about the pilot? We didn’t know for sure. We didn’t know where that was going. We just knew that he had a history with this woman and they seemed to be simpatico. But to be honest, I don’t know that we knew an awful lot more than what we showed onscreen.
Then as that season goes along, you start hearing that the two of them have in-jokes, and then you can’t help feeling like he would like a romantic relationship with her. How could he not? So that season two episode really pivoted on that, and I don’t think it would have occurred to us if we hadn’t watched the show as it was made and watched Rhea Seehorn, to really explore those characters in as much depth as we could.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-features/better-call-saul-season-6-premiere-peter-gould-interview-1235131511/
You mentioned the Zafiro Añejo tequila bottle stopper, which first appeared in “Switch,” the season two premiere. It strikes me that when you’re making a pilot, you always assume that a pilot is going to be important and that you’d be nodding back to it throughout, but it’s feeling more and more like “Switch” might actually be this show’s pivotal episode. Did you realize at the time that it was a change of direction and that it was going to be so crucial?
No. I think any question that you ask me, “Did you know …,” I’m going to answer “No.” For both shows, there’s a process involved, a process of discovery. It’s more looking deeper and deeper into the characters. I think that what we realized after season one was that we had this character Kim Wexler, as played by Rhea Seehorn, who fascinated us, and it amazed us that Jimmy had this person in his life. That relationship became very central to the show. That was not something — you talk about the pilot? We didn’t know for sure. We didn’t know where that was going. We just knew that he had a history with this woman and they seemed to be simpatico. But to be honest, I don’t know that we knew an awful lot more than what we showed onscreen.
Then as that season goes along, you start hearing that the two of them have in-jokes, and then you can’t help feeling like he would like a romantic relationship with her. How could he not? So that season two episode really pivoted on that, and I don’t think it would have occurred to us if we hadn’t watched the show as it was made and watched Rhea Seehorn, to really explore those characters in as much depth as we could.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-features/better-call-saul-season-6-premiere-peter-gould-interview-1235131511/
Posted on 4/19/22 at 3:19 pm to Walking the Earth
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Saul Goodman in Breaking Bad isn't some exaggerated version of Jimmy McGill or "Slippin' Jimmy on steroids", he's a truly malevolent person
Malevolent? I completely disagree. Saul was a scumbag, but there was always some humanity still there, some redemptive qualities. A lot of that may be in the brilliance of Odenkirk’s portrayal and may have played differently with a different actor. But there are 1000 adjectives I’d use to describe Saul before malevolent.
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She does borderline or even flat out unethical things but her motivation is to have the freedom to do pro bono work as her full time job whereas Saul Goodman and Associates definitely do not seem to be heavy into pro bono work.
I suppose you think everything Walt did, he did for his family too, huh?
I’m sure there’s part of Kim that is truly good and is doing that work to genuinely help people, but a lot of it is to assuage her guilt from all the bad shite she’s done/is doing. I could argue Saul’s motivations are more noble, because at least they’re honest—Kim’s lying to everybody, mostly herself.
There’s so much gray with all these characters in this universe—nobody’s character is black and white. Especially the more they get fleshed out. Gus was probably the most 2-dimensional comic book-villainy character in BB, but even he had that flashback episode where Hector killed his partner at Don Eladio’s and stepped on his head and made him watch him bleed out that was so bad it made you feel sympathy for what had up to that point been a truly malevolent monster. And now we see him all nervous and knocking shite over and breaking it. We’ve never seen this Gus.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 3:21 pm to DomincDecoco
Kim moved back to Missouri near the border of Nebraska after shite hit the fan for Saul. (She is a known Royals fan and admitted she grew up on the border of Missouri / Nebraska)
That is why he moved to Omaha as Gene to try and rekindle with her.
That is why he moved to Omaha as Gene to try and rekindle with her.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 3:25 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
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Kim is manipulating Saul into ruining Howard, for what? Howard mentored her, paid for her law school, treated her very fairly.
The endgame here is to force the settlement of Sandpiper so they get millions of dollars.
As Saul's wife she would get half.
She might be playing Saul for that money
Posted on 4/19/22 at 4:03 pm to rondo
My first thought on the car tailing them at the end is Lalo.
His last words on the phone with Hector are talking about proof and "I know where to get it".
He's going after Saul/Kim because he never did believe Saul's story after brining the bail money back.
His last words on the phone with Hector are talking about proof and "I know where to get it".
He's going after Saul/Kim because he never did believe Saul's story after brining the bail money back.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 4:21 pm to jumbo
But Lalo very specifically did not go north of the border
He is still in Mexico
Looked like a Mike car if I've ever seen one.
He is still in Mexico
Looked like a Mike car if I've ever seen one.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 4:37 pm to UncleLester
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My favorite part was Lalo talking to the Coffee Senora about her husband’s dental work (so for a moment we think Lalo is a kind/thoughtful man that helped a colleague with his toothaches)…
Then we realized the dental work was done so it could be a double for Lalo if he ever needed a dead body to match his dental records.
I am still confused because the brothers were at the main compound when they looked at the body, judging by all of the other dead bodies they walked through, but the body double was at another location. Did Lalo drag the body to the main compound before authorities arrived?
This post was edited on 4/19/22 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 4/19/22 at 4:47 pm to DomincDecoco
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Nah, I think the topper is something that Saul was holding on to remember Kim
Agree. I don't think Kim would've lived in that tacky of a house. I think he came across it and kept it for reasons you state.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 4:50 pm to muttenstein
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Did Lalo drag the body to the main compound before authorities arrived?
That’s what I understood.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 4:50 pm to Hot Carl
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I could argue Saul’s motivations are more noble, because at least they’re honest—Kim’s lying to everybody, mostly herself.
Completely agree.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 5:18 pm to dirtsandwich
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That’s what I understood
Well that seems risky.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 5:25 pm to LSUFreek
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Did Lalo send you???"...so (spoiler) both Nacho & Lalo survive at least until whenever Saul interacts with Walt & Jesse.
Not necessarily. Maybe they’re alive or maybe be Saul doesn’t know they’re dead. He has been a lawyer for the cartel but that doesn’t mean they keep him in the know
Posted on 4/19/22 at 5:32 pm to muttenstein
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Well that seems risky.
Maybe. Though the cartels own the authorities, so I’m guessing you can keep them from coming to investigate until you have the scene how you want it.
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