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re: tOfficial Better Call Saul Season 6 Episode 1 and 2 Thread (Page 15/16 spoil zone)

Posted on 4/19/22 at 9:53 am to
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 9:53 am to
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I’m with you—and probably always have been—that J+K=S.


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I do not think Kim is involved in Saul’s business in any way in the BB timeline.


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she’s not lurking in the shadows during BB running Saul’s business.


Ham's theory is *literally* that kim is involved in saul's business behind the scenes during BB.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 10:21 am to
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Ham's theory is *literally* that kim is involved in saul's business behind the scenes during BB.



I know. And I disagree.
Posted by Cow Drogo
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 10:25 am to
What was the objective with Mike cracking nachos safe then replacing it with a duplicate?
Did he remove nachos dads card? So that when the other crew came hit the safe they didn’t see it?
Posted by AMS
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 10:26 am to
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Ham's theory is *literally* that kim is involved in saul's business behind the scenes during BB.


I know. And I disagree.



welcome to the J-K=S faction
kim helps jimmy create and polish the saul persona. But saul is more or less self-sufficient in BB and does not have kim working in the background all along.
Posted by Walking the Earth
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 10:29 am to
Interested to see the tipping point that turns a sort of well meaning doofus with inadequacy issues that likes to cut corners into a truly horrible individual willing to accept and even encourage people getting killed to cover his arse.

The guy that felt so bad at two pretty shady people getting a well deserved scare that he gave them a stack of cash is pretty far from the Breaking Bad Saul Goodman.

I'm curious about the timeline. In Breaking Bad, it was just kind of assumed that Saul had been a criminal lawyer for a decade plus to build up the kind of network that he had but it seems like we're just about bumping up on the Breaking Bad timeline so maybe he was only a true scumbag for a couple of years or so.
This post was edited on 4/19/22 at 10:41 am
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 10:30 am to
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What was the objective with Mike cracking nachos safe then replacing it with a duplicate?


they knew someone working on behalf of the salamancas was going to go to nacho's place and break into his safe. So they left the envelope with the hotel phone number in the safe so that whoever found it (bolsa) would know nacho's location.

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Did he remove nachos dads card? So that when the other crew came hit the safe they didn’t see it?


yeah, mike this whole time has been very adamant abotu not involving the dad.
Posted by Walking the Earth
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 10:35 am to
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kim helps jimmy create and polish the saul persona.


The Saul persona that she is helping to create here isn't the same guy in Breaking Bad.

Saul Goodman in Breaking Bad isn't some exaggerated version of Jimmy McGill or "Slippin' Jimmy on steroids", he's a truly malevolent person neck deep in the drug trade and that's not what Kim is trying to create.
Posted by NashvilleTider
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:11 am to
Peter and Vince crushed this. We are in for a hell of a ride.
Posted by Lawyered
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:13 am to
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Peter and Vince crushed this. We are in for a hell of a ride.



I agree.. I had a terrible feeling D and D wouldn’t stick the landing with GOT… I feel the exact opposite for BCS.

They are gonna end this masterfully . I feel it in my plums
Posted by bah humbug
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:17 am to
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yeah, mike this whole time has been very adamant abotu not involving the dad.


So Mike took the dad’s ID (I get that.) but left the envelope with the paperwork on where Nacho was located after he spoke up to Gus on Nacho’s loyalty/behalf. Why did he sell Nacho out? Force from Gus? Traded out the dad’s safety for Nacho’s?
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:19 am to
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I feel it in my plums


+1. Let the boy watch
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:25 am to
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Why did he sell Nacho out? Force from Gus?


I mean he works for Gus and has to do what he's told. Gus put a team together to leave Nacho's whereabouts in that safe so that's what mike did. I'm sure it's not somethign he wanted to do willingly.
Posted by Bruco
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:48 am to
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Interested to see the tipping point that turns a sort of well meaning doofus with inadequacy issues that likes to cut corners into a truly horrible individual willing to accept and even encourage people getting killed to cover his arse. The guy that felt so bad at two pretty shady people getting a well deserved scare that he gave them a stack of cash is pretty far from the Breaking Bad Saul Goodman.


I think we also need to keep in mind that Saul also evolved during the BB timeline as the money and danger got bigger. I don’t think he was the same Saul at the end that we were introduced to in season 2 of BB.
Posted by tonic
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:56 am to
There are 24 hours in a day, we only got to see brief moments of Saul's existence during BB.

I think Kim is around during some of the BB events but not all.
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:57 am to
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The guy that felt so bad at two pretty shady people getting a well deserved scare that he gave them a stack of cash is pretty far from the Breaking Bad Saul Goodman


I get what you're saying, but that's not entirely true. BB Saul had a couple of moments where he showed some decency.

You could tell he was bothered when Jesse wouldn't go in to see Brock. He tried to talk him into it.

At one point he was trying to talk Walt and Jesse into taking their money and getting out, which would hurt his bottom line.

99% of the time he is a scumbag, but the human side did come through every now and then.
Posted by Crow Pie
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 12:30 pm to
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Interested to see the tipping point that turns a sort of well meaning doofus with inadequacy issues that likes to cut corners into a truly horrible individual willing to accept and even encourage people getting killed to cover his arse.
I am leaning towards his final tipping point being the separation of Kim and him for reasons yet unknown.
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 12:39 pm to
Definitely think he and Kim have some sort of falling out, as opposed to her dying.

Kim seems to really be giving Saul the side eye everytime he uses some of the cartel money so it doesn't seem like they're drawing her up to ever be onboard with being part of that life.

She does borderline or even flat out unethical things but her motivation is to have the freedom to do pro bono work as her full time job whereas Saul Goodman and Associates definitely do not seem to be heavy into pro bono work.

So, it seems like there is some break coming up between the two of them to fully push Jimmy into becoming Saul. I just have no idea what it could be or how we get there.

Or maybe Saul is using some of his fees from laundering drug money to fund Kim's dream pro bono practice. Doubtful but who knows.
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 12:42 pm to
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99% of the time he is a scumbag, but the human side did come through every now and then.




That is true. The BB version of Saul had a couple of moments.
Posted by DukeSilver
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 12:46 pm to
So Kim's tequila topper was at Saul's house, he wouldn't have brough that there presumably so she is at least with him/around long enough for him to get enough money and move in to that house.
This post was edited on 4/19/22 at 12:47 pm
Posted by DomincDecoco
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 12:55 pm to
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D and D wouldn’t stick the landing with GOT


I was thinking just this on the way in this morning....easy and refreshing to sit back and enjoy the ride KNOWING that it will end perfectly with all loose ends tied up and no unanswered questions

and it will be done BEAUTIFULLY...VG is a master.
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