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re: tOfficial Better Call Saul Season 6 Episode 1 and 2 Thread (Page 15/16 spoil zone)
Posted on 4/19/22 at 9:53 am to Hot Carl
Posted on 4/19/22 at 9:53 am to Hot Carl
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I’m with you—and probably always have been—that J+K=S.
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I do not think Kim is involved in Saul’s business in any way in the BB timeline.
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she’s not lurking in the shadows during BB running Saul’s business.
Ham's theory is *literally* that kim is involved in saul's business behind the scenes during BB.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 10:21 am to WG_Dawg
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Ham's theory is *literally* that kim is involved in saul's business behind the scenes during BB.
I know. And I disagree.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 10:25 am to Hot Carl
What was the objective with Mike cracking nachos safe then replacing it with a duplicate?
Did he remove nachos dads card? So that when the other crew came hit the safe they didn’t see it?
Did he remove nachos dads card? So that when the other crew came hit the safe they didn’t see it?
Posted on 4/19/22 at 10:26 am to Hot Carl
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Ham's theory is *literally* that kim is involved in saul's business behind the scenes during BB.
I know. And I disagree.
welcome to the J-K=S faction
kim helps jimmy create and polish the saul persona. But saul is more or less self-sufficient in BB and does not have kim working in the background all along.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 10:29 am to WG_Dawg
Interested to see the tipping point that turns a sort of well meaning doofus with inadequacy issues that likes to cut corners into a truly horrible individual willing to accept and even encourage people getting killed to cover his arse.
The guy that felt so bad at two pretty shady people getting a well deserved scare that he gave them a stack of cash is pretty far from the Breaking Bad Saul Goodman.
I'm curious about the timeline. In Breaking Bad, it was just kind of assumed that Saul had been a criminal lawyer for a decade plus to build up the kind of network that he had but it seems like we're just about bumping up on the Breaking Bad timeline so maybe he was only a true scumbag for a couple of years or so.
The guy that felt so bad at two pretty shady people getting a well deserved scare that he gave them a stack of cash is pretty far from the Breaking Bad Saul Goodman.
I'm curious about the timeline. In Breaking Bad, it was just kind of assumed that Saul had been a criminal lawyer for a decade plus to build up the kind of network that he had but it seems like we're just about bumping up on the Breaking Bad timeline so maybe he was only a true scumbag for a couple of years or so.
This post was edited on 4/19/22 at 10:41 am
Posted on 4/19/22 at 10:30 am to Cow Drogo
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What was the objective with Mike cracking nachos safe then replacing it with a duplicate?
they knew someone working on behalf of the salamancas was going to go to nacho's place and break into his safe. So they left the envelope with the hotel phone number in the safe so that whoever found it (bolsa) would know nacho's location.
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Did he remove nachos dads card? So that when the other crew came hit the safe they didn’t see it?
yeah, mike this whole time has been very adamant abotu not involving the dad.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 10:35 am to AMS
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kim helps jimmy create and polish the saul persona.
The Saul persona that she is helping to create here isn't the same guy in Breaking Bad.
Saul Goodman in Breaking Bad isn't some exaggerated version of Jimmy McGill or "Slippin' Jimmy on steroids", he's a truly malevolent person neck deep in the drug trade and that's not what Kim is trying to create.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:11 am to Walking the Earth
Peter and Vince crushed this. We are in for a hell of a ride.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:13 am to NashvilleTider
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Peter and Vince crushed this. We are in for a hell of a ride.
I agree.. I had a terrible feeling D and D wouldn’t stick the landing with GOT… I feel the exact opposite for BCS.
They are gonna end this masterfully . I feel it in my plums
Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:17 am to WG_Dawg
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yeah, mike this whole time has been very adamant abotu not involving the dad.
So Mike took the dad’s ID (I get that.) but left the envelope with the paperwork on where Nacho was located after he spoke up to Gus on Nacho’s loyalty/behalf. Why did he sell Nacho out? Force from Gus? Traded out the dad’s safety for Nacho’s?
Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:19 am to Lawyered
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I feel it in my plums
+1. Let the boy watch
Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:25 am to bah humbug
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Why did he sell Nacho out? Force from Gus?
I mean he works for Gus and has to do what he's told. Gus put a team together to leave Nacho's whereabouts in that safe so that's what mike did. I'm sure it's not somethign he wanted to do willingly.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:48 am to Walking the Earth
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Interested to see the tipping point that turns a sort of well meaning doofus with inadequacy issues that likes to cut corners into a truly horrible individual willing to accept and even encourage people getting killed to cover his arse. The guy that felt so bad at two pretty shady people getting a well deserved scare that he gave them a stack of cash is pretty far from the Breaking Bad Saul Goodman.
I think we also need to keep in mind that Saul also evolved during the BB timeline as the money and danger got bigger. I don’t think he was the same Saul at the end that we were introduced to in season 2 of BB.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:56 am to Bruco
There are 24 hours in a day, we only got to see brief moments of Saul's existence during BB.
I think Kim is around during some of the BB events but not all.
I think Kim is around during some of the BB events but not all.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:57 am to Bruco
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The guy that felt so bad at two pretty shady people getting a well deserved scare that he gave them a stack of cash is pretty far from the Breaking Bad Saul Goodman
I get what you're saying, but that's not entirely true. BB Saul had a couple of moments where he showed some decency.
You could tell he was bothered when Jesse wouldn't go in to see Brock. He tried to talk him into it.
At one point he was trying to talk Walt and Jesse into taking their money and getting out, which would hurt his bottom line.
99% of the time he is a scumbag, but the human side did come through every now and then.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 12:30 pm to Walking the Earth
quote:I am leaning towards his final tipping point being the separation of Kim and him for reasons yet unknown.
Interested to see the tipping point that turns a sort of well meaning doofus with inadequacy issues that likes to cut corners into a truly horrible individual willing to accept and even encourage people getting killed to cover his arse.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 12:39 pm to Crow Pie
Definitely think he and Kim have some sort of falling out, as opposed to her dying.
Kim seems to really be giving Saul the side eye everytime he uses some of the cartel money so it doesn't seem like they're drawing her up to ever be onboard with being part of that life.
She does borderline or even flat out unethical things but her motivation is to have the freedom to do pro bono work as her full time job whereas Saul Goodman and Associates definitely do not seem to be heavy into pro bono work.
So, it seems like there is some break coming up between the two of them to fully push Jimmy into becoming Saul. I just have no idea what it could be or how we get there.
Or maybe Saul is using some of his fees from laundering drug money to fund Kim's dream pro bono practice. Doubtful but who knows.
Kim seems to really be giving Saul the side eye everytime he uses some of the cartel money so it doesn't seem like they're drawing her up to ever be onboard with being part of that life.
She does borderline or even flat out unethical things but her motivation is to have the freedom to do pro bono work as her full time job whereas Saul Goodman and Associates definitely do not seem to be heavy into pro bono work.
So, it seems like there is some break coming up between the two of them to fully push Jimmy into becoming Saul. I just have no idea what it could be or how we get there.
Or maybe Saul is using some of his fees from laundering drug money to fund Kim's dream pro bono practice. Doubtful but who knows.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 12:42 pm to Ham Solo
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99% of the time he is a scumbag, but the human side did come through every now and then.
That is true. The BB version of Saul had a couple of moments.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 12:46 pm to Walking the Earth
So Kim's tequila topper was at Saul's house, he wouldn't have brough that there presumably so she is at least with him/around long enough for him to get enough money and move in to that house.
This post was edited on 4/19/22 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 4/19/22 at 12:55 pm to Lawyered
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D and D wouldn’t stick the landing with GOT
I was thinking just this on the way in this morning....easy and refreshing to sit back and enjoy the ride KNOWING that it will end perfectly with all loose ends tied up and no unanswered questions
and it will be done BEAUTIFULLY...VG is a master.
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