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re: The OFFICIAL Man of Steel Discussion and ***SPOILERS*** Thread
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:41 pm to Itismemc
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:41 pm to Itismemc
Oh yeah now that you mention it, there did seem to be one.
Hmm, maybe Lex gets a hold of one of those corpses that has a little bit of DNA in it. Ideas, ideas.
Hmm, maybe Lex gets a hold of one of those corpses that has a little bit of DNA in it. Ideas, ideas.
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Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:57 pm to Itismemc
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The ship that was in the ice, one of the crew beds was open?
I noticed that in the second time I saw this movie. It will probably be something like Supergirl or maybe Power Girl.
So after this movie, Superman has nothing left from Krypton. The ship that he got his suit in was destroyed. How is he going to build a Fortress of Solitude since he has nothing from Krypton left?
Anyway, speaking of Krypton, I really wish DC would do one of their animated films on something like the novel, "The last days of Krypton" by Kevin Anderson. It was a great book and really gives you more foresight and shines more light on arguably the most important part of Superman's origins. It'd be interesting to do a comic book movie without the superhero itself. There's enough source material on Krypton to do one.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 1:10 am to Sentrius
i know a bit late just thought i would give my input
HC has probably the best Superman look ever...while he doesnt possess CR's charm he does possess a more modern feel to him which i think works in his favor he just needs to stay away from psychotic breaks until people actually die...his dont touch my mommy rant was egh
Russell Crowe did the best job he could...there isnt another marlon brando walking the earth and I agree outside of liam nelson who has done it all from training batman, anakin etc...maximus is the most qualified lol.
zod was easily the 2nd best villian portrayed in basically any hero movie since the first x men movie IMO. with joker obviously being the first. RIP Heath.
Lois knowing CK's identity may rattle oldtimers and comic book purists but i am more than ok with the worlds best reporter not being fooled by a pair of eye glasses...
the script had its weak moments and in terms of dialogue...i always hate bad guy monologue about the inferiority of insert hero here...why they will fall...why the dont deserve their ability/powers or in this case evolution yada yada yada.
at times i thought the emotion was lacking from costner...suprise...and my only real grip in that department was jonathan dying saving the dog...maybe im not a peta person but i do love my animals...however i will not face certain death to rescue my dog...humans still are more valuable in terms of life at least people like jonathan kent are.
fishburne as perry white i think was a great choice...can never have enough bada@@es around like maximus and morpheus
and to superman killing zod i was definitely surprised but in no way up in arms upset about the mythos...in that situation superman has to kill zod and depending on where the story is going he may need to kill more people...as long as he isnt slaying luthor i can be ok with it...but darkseid...doomsday...brainiac...those arent the im going to walk away types and neither is a warrior general like zod.
all in all good movie i would give it an 8 or an 8.5/10
HC has probably the best Superman look ever...while he doesnt possess CR's charm he does possess a more modern feel to him which i think works in his favor he just needs to stay away from psychotic breaks until people actually die...his dont touch my mommy rant was egh
Russell Crowe did the best job he could...there isnt another marlon brando walking the earth and I agree outside of liam nelson who has done it all from training batman, anakin etc...maximus is the most qualified lol.
zod was easily the 2nd best villian portrayed in basically any hero movie since the first x men movie IMO. with joker obviously being the first. RIP Heath.
Lois knowing CK's identity may rattle oldtimers and comic book purists but i am more than ok with the worlds best reporter not being fooled by a pair of eye glasses...
the script had its weak moments and in terms of dialogue...i always hate bad guy monologue about the inferiority of insert hero here...why they will fall...why the dont deserve their ability/powers or in this case evolution yada yada yada.
at times i thought the emotion was lacking from costner...suprise...and my only real grip in that department was jonathan dying saving the dog...maybe im not a peta person but i do love my animals...however i will not face certain death to rescue my dog...humans still are more valuable in terms of life at least people like jonathan kent are.
fishburne as perry white i think was a great choice...can never have enough bada@@es around like maximus and morpheus
and to superman killing zod i was definitely surprised but in no way up in arms upset about the mythos...in that situation superman has to kill zod and depending on where the story is going he may need to kill more people...as long as he isnt slaying luthor i can be ok with it...but darkseid...doomsday...brainiac...those arent the im going to walk away types and neither is a warrior general like zod.
all in all good movie i would give it an 8 or an 8.5/10
This post was edited on 6/17/13 at 1:12 am
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:49 am to Sentrius
Take this as a compliment or an insult to the new Supes, but I enjoyed Tom Welling's Clark Kent more than Henry's Superman.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 6:25 am to TK421
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He designed the ship Zod was on, not the scout ship.
Clark stole the ship that was buried in the ice for 20,000 years. Isn't that the ship that Clark walks out of as Superman for the first time?
Posted on 6/17/13 at 7:41 am to FairhopeTider
hell with who will play Lex. Real question is who will play Gus Gorman? Dave Chappelle?
Posted on 6/17/13 at 8:05 am to FairhopeTider
Yes. He basically put a flash drive in the ship's computer and his dad became a hologram. The age of the ship might be a bit of a stretch, but highly advanced technology staying the same isn't completely unreasonable
Posted on 6/17/13 at 8:26 am to Sentrius
Seen it yesterday and while I knock on Superman a lot, I thought the film was alright.
While I thought the film was a huge mess for the first hour and a half, once Kal and Lois returned to Earth after being on the mother ship and the movie stopped shifting forwards and backwards every ten minutes it got better.
I also had a problem with Lois and to a lesser extent Zod being at any location the film needed them to be for the sake of the story. Zod I can understand, but Lois on the other hand seemed to teleport from location to location.
Normally a great ending can't make up for a bad or even okay film. But Man of Steel in my opinion was the exception. The one character that we didn't think would have the balls to do the unthinkable was able to pull the trigger. Many writers would never dare to put Clark in that scenario and Goyer did.
Man of Steel was by no means great and sometimes not even really good, but it did take one of the most recognizable fictional characters of all time and give us a moment that showed us that for one moment, even he went to that dark place that millions of other humans are capable of going, and for me, that one moment makes up for anytime that the film stumbled.
While I thought the film was a huge mess for the first hour and a half, once Kal and Lois returned to Earth after being on the mother ship and the movie stopped shifting forwards and backwards every ten minutes it got better.
I also had a problem with Lois and to a lesser extent Zod being at any location the film needed them to be for the sake of the story. Zod I can understand, but Lois on the other hand seemed to teleport from location to location.
Normally a great ending can't make up for a bad or even okay film. But Man of Steel in my opinion was the exception. The one character that we didn't think would have the balls to do the unthinkable was able to pull the trigger. Many writers would never dare to put Clark in that scenario and Goyer did.
Man of Steel was by no means great and sometimes not even really good, but it did take one of the most recognizable fictional characters of all time and give us a moment that showed us that for one moment, even he went to that dark place that millions of other humans are capable of going, and for me, that one moment makes up for anytime that the film stumbled.
This post was edited on 6/17/13 at 8:28 am
Posted on 6/17/13 at 9:16 am to TK421
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Yes. He basically put a flash drive in the ship's computer and his dad became a hologram. The age of the ship might be a bit of a stretch, but highly advanced technology staying the same isn't completely unreasonable
OK...so where did the suit come from?
Posted on 6/17/13 at 9:22 am to Sentrius
Anybody else bothered by how much destruction was caused? I think people would be pretty pissed at Superman since he was the reason Zod came to earth in the first place. I hope it gets addressed in the sequel.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 9:30 am to Volvagia
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For some reason I thought you closer to my own age in all of the evolution threads.
Now I see you are an old shite.
Now I feel a little older than I did before, in the middle of my self image adjustment out of the college kid bracket.
frick you for that
Yeah...sorry. haha
Posted on 6/17/13 at 9:32 am to AngryBeavers
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Anybody else bothered by how much destruction was caused? I think people would be pretty pissed at Superman since he was the reason Zod came to earth in the first place. I hope it gets addressed in the sequel.
Enter Lex Luthor....
Posted on 6/17/13 at 9:37 am to FairhopeTider
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OK...so where did the suit come from?
Decent question. Ship's replicator?
Posted on 6/17/13 at 9:37 am to AngryBeavers
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Anybody else bothered by how much destruction was caused? I think people would be pretty pissed at Superman since he was the reason Zod came to earth in the first place. I hope it gets addressed in the sequel.
I'm sure it will be. Assuming for a second Lex appears in Mos2, you can easily see him being one of the ones pushing for accountability of Superman for exactly that type of thing. Hell...you could even see the introduction of CADMUS or something and as attempt to keep him reigned in.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 9:42 am to TK421
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Yes. He basically put a flash drive in the ship's computer and his dad became a hologram. The age of the ship might be a bit of a stretch, but highly advanced technology staying the same isn't completely unreasonable
What he put was a totem that seemed to be carried by the heads of each house as some kind of power status symbol.
Not unreasonable to think that even if they used other data storage techs elsewhere, they would retain backwards compatability on that.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 9:44 am to GeauxTigerTM
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Assuming for a second Lex appears in Mos2, you can easily see him being one of the ones pushing for accountability of Superman for exactly that type of thing.
Yep and that will be a great angle to take IMO.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 9:48 am to theunknownknight
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He was good, not great. Zod was a man of power who knew he had the power. Men with real power don't have to constantly yell to assert themselves. That's why Zod from Superman 2 NAILED the part
You are comparing two different characters. Shannon nailed the character for MoS. Posted on 6/17/13 at 9:53 am to jeff5891
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Shannon nailed the character for MoS.
I think he did the best with what he was given. Shannon's dialogue in the film was nothing more then to tell the audience exactly what he was doing and why he was doing it in the most menacing way possible.
While at first glance Shannon seemed very intimidating as General Zod, but at a second glance every speech he gave was nothing more than just "In case you forgot audience, this is why I am here, and this is what I am doing"
Posted on 6/17/13 at 9:57 am to TigerWerm
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Michael C. Hall (Dexter)
No
Posted on 6/17/13 at 10:15 am to TK421
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Decent question. Ship's replicator?
It didn't look that different from the suits that Zod and his cronies were wearing under the armor, meaning it was standard Krypton fashion. It was probably an unused scout suit.
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