re: The OFFICIAL Man of Steel Discussion and ***SPOILERS*** Thread

I'll also add: the drawing of Superman's blood will play a factor in the sequels.

1. Superman's blood available
2. Open POD for kryptonian/doomsday/brainiac
3. ?????
4. Profit

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I enjoyed the action in this film at first but it started to get it repetitive: smash through building, then another building or a train/car, then another and so on and so forth. Would have liked to see more variety.

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I saw a farm,IHOP, gas station, small town, fire station, train yard, construction site, towers, planes, oil tanker, world engine, metropolis, bank, and a subway grand station all get blown up. Thats a lot of different shite.

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I know it's been discussed but I cannot stop listening to Han Zimmer's score for this film. It feels epic when I'm typing this.

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It's definitely one of his more complex scores with some movements ranking up there with his best work. I'm not sure if it beats out his Batman scores though.

yea understood your point i was being sarcastic

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I'm not sure if it beats out his Batman scores though.

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it doesn't. I absolutely love Zimmer's work and listen to it constantly.

The MOS score was good, but I remember reading that they had him keep it more minimal and that's what I really notice. I actually thought it was a little too toned down. In the Batman series there are so many moments that are 100% made by the score, whereas that wasn't really the case in MOS.

I enjoyed the movie and think it was a good Superman movie but not great. I'm still struggling to decide if I like the end or not. I understand the reality that Snyder put the movie in and where he was going with it especially with Nolan's influences but Superman is not Batman. This part of an article sums up a lot of my feelings toward the movie. I know, TLDR.

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As a comic book geek myself, I certainly appreciate the impulse to ground superheroes in more “reality”. It works beautifully when it’s done as well as Nolan did with Batman, but Batman is a tragic hero, a man forever tormented by his past. Grim and gritty suits the man in black. However, Superman, in all his bright colors, has always been the opposite of that, and while this is not to say a Superman film can’t embrace more verisimilitude, (as he did in the much more successful Superman II where one of Superman’s biggest challenges was how to cope with being powerless), it does mean if there’s one thing Superman is not – at least not logically – it’s haunted. And that’s exactly what the Man of Steel creative team makes him.

Until the one scene much later in the film where Superman realizes he can fly, there’s not a moment that Clark doesn’t spend living as glum and gloomy a life as possible. Remember the joy Tobey Maguire felt when he swung from the rooftops in the first Spiderman? How about the moment-by-moment pleasures we felt watching Robert Downey, Jr. as Tony Stark in the first Iron Man as he gleefully learned to operate his armored suit? There’s none of that undistilled excitement that’s so naturally a part of being a superhero – especially one as powerful as Superman – in The Man of Steel.

In this version, Supes’ childhood is one of being the eternal loner and repressing himself. While on one level that makes perfect sense, it also leaves out everything that’s fun about being Superman, about realizing no one can hurt you and you have powers and abilities far beyond that of mortal men. The original Richard Donner film showed us how Clark had to watch himself too, but he wasn’t also taught to fear humanity the way this version of Clark is. While it’s true humanity tends to fear what we don’t understand, it’s also true that we appreciate the hell out of super-powered saviors and it’s why the film quickly cuts away from a moment where a Smallville mother confronts the Kents about what she believes his son can do. She seems angry, but what exactly is she angry at? That Clark saved her son’s life? That Clark saved a busload of Smallville children from tragedy? It doesn’t make sense and the film knows it, which is why it never follows up on that conversation, but are just repeatedly told by Kevin Costner that it’s better for Superman to not save lives than risk discovery by humanity. Huh? What kind of life lesson is that from a man we’re supposed to admire? Clark is taught to fear humanity so relentlessly it’s a wonder that he doesn’t more easily fall in line with Zod’s requests to do away with them given that he’s spent his life running and hiding from them.

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While it’s true humanity tends to fear what we don’t understand, it’s also true that we appreciate the hell out of super-powered saviors and it’s why the film quickly cuts away from a moment where a Smallville mother confronts the Kents about what she believes his son can do. She seems angry, but what exactly is she angry at? That Clark saved her son’s life? That Clark saved a busload of Smallville children from tragedy? It doesn’t make sense and the film knows it, which is why it never follows up on that conversation, but are just repeatedly told by Kevin Costner that it’s better for Superman to not save lives than risk discovery by humanity. Huh? What kind of life lesson is that from a man we’re supposed to admire? Clark is taught to fear humanity so relentlessly it’s a wonder that he doesn’t more easily fall in line with Zod’s requests to do away with them given that he’s spent his life running and hiding from them.

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This part makes me think this guy didn't actually watch the movie, but only the trailer. When I saw that scene in the trailer, I thought she was afraid. But that's NOT the feeling she gave in the movie, but right after she says that she straight up suggests that GOD sent Clark there to help people. It's why he freaks out and asks his Dad if God did that. It's why Johnathan finally has to tell him he's an alien, and we get some straight from the New Testament comparisons to Jesus as you see the child told he's not normal and at some point the weight of the world may be upon him.

I get that in the past they have not delved into this territory with Superman, but I actually think it makes more sense than the traditional way. After all, Batman was not always portrayed so gloomily and glumly, despite his origin, but it works. I think that read a certain way, Superman's story is just as sad and can clearly be told in such a way.

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Until the one scene much later in the film where Superman realizes he can fly, there’s not a moment that Clark doesn’t spend living as glum and gloomy a life as possible. Remember the joy Tobey Maguire felt when he swung from the rooftops in the first Spiderman? How about the moment-by-moment pleasures we felt watching Robert Downey, Jr. as Tony Stark in the first Iron Man as he gleefully learned to operate his armored suit? There’s none of that undistilled excitement that’s so naturally a part of being a superhero – especially one as powerful as Superman – in The Man of Steel.

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Again...it's like he didn't watch the movie. The FIRST thing we watch Supes do after putting on the suit is go outside the ship and start tear-assing around at super-sonic speed and being pretty damned excited about it.

Has anyone seen this. Some consulting firm came up with this.