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Posted on 11/16/14 at 9:19 am to Freauxzen
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If the wormhole is closed, the film makes less sense, it's pretty simple. The sheer magnitude of the idea in "exploring" for Brand is ridiculous.
It's as ridiculous as being locked in a room, and telling the person who is locked in the room to randomly find a person who is somewhere in the world without any clues on where that person is or any means to leave that room. Cooper knows there is not even the most remote possibility of finding her in that craft if the wormhole is closed. It makes zero sense if Jonah Nolan's ending is right.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 9:22 am to OMLandshark
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It's as ridiculous as being locked in a room, and telling the person who is locked in the room to randomly find a person who is somewhere in the world without any clues on where that person is or any means to leave that room. Cooper knows there is not even the most remote possibility of finding her in that craft if the wormhole is closed. It makes zero sense if Jonah Nolan's ending is right.
It's worse than that. It's putting someone on a beach that contains all the beach sand in the world and telling them to find a unique infinitesimally small sub-quark particle that's hidden within a single grain of sand.
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 9:51 am to Freauxzen
How have we gone 8 pages talking about Charity Nolan's comment to IGN?
Nothing in the movie suggests it's closed.
Nothing in the movie suggests it's closed.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 11:58 am to ShamelessPel
If the portal is open, why hasn't Murph's colony gone through it?
Posted on 11/16/14 at 12:14 pm to abellsujr
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If the portal is open, why hasn't Murph's colony gone through it?
Who says that they haven't?
Posted on 11/16/14 at 12:16 pm to Fewer Kilometers
They're chilling next to Saturn. And
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A note about the end. A lot of people think there is something more to do. Not really and no indication either.
Do note that the wormhole is closed (that’s the tesseract breaking down, and that’s why Cooper is out of the black hole). There is no communication between Edmund and Earthlings. Earthlings are happily settled on various man modified satellites in our own solar system. This was achieved by completing the formula which allowed them to harness the levels of energy they needed for such an endeavour. Edmundians are fine by themselves. Everyone’s happy and getting along. While they are connected, both Plan A and Plan B worked out independent of each other.
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 1:45 pm to abellsujr
Interesting blog. But I'm not sure what his interpretation about unshown plot details proves.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 1:48 pm to buckeye_vol
What about the writer of the story?
You guys can turn a blind eye all you want. It doesn't change what the movie was intended to be. You may want it to be different. That's OK. But to conclude that the wormhole was open is not what the makers of the film intended.
You guys can turn a blind eye all you want. It doesn't change what the movie was intended to be. You may want it to be different. That's OK. But to conclude that the wormhole was open is not what the makers of the film intended.
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 1:56 pm to abellsujr
As some have said (although I don't know the behind the scenes logistics) Jonathan Nolan was the initial writer but a great deal changed after his initial story. It's like a book and a movie (e.g., American Psycho). The author's perspective on implicit plot points differs than the director's. Unless Christoher Nolan either refutes or confirms this notion, than it is left to one's interpretation. You have one view, I have another. Objectivey, I don't think your's is either right or wrong.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 2:00 pm to buckeye_vol
But there's noting that definitely proves it either way, really. All we have is what one of the two writers and brother of the director has said.
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 2:03 pm to abellsujr
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Posted by abellsujr But there's noting that definitely proves it either way, really. All we have is what one of the two writers and brother of the director to go by.
You have the film itself. Jonathan Nolan's vision is essentially irrelevant, save for an alternative explanation, unless it was in the film or Christopher Nolan discusses it. It's interesting. But unless his vision exactly mirrors his brother's than it is still his initial vision.
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 2:06 pm to abellsujr
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If the portal is open, why hasn't Murph's colony gone through it?
In the final shot of Brand on the new planet, why did Old Murph refer to it as "our new home" and why were there multiple temporary structures on the planet's surface? Could it be possible that those pilots who were taking off from Cooper Station were going through the wormhole, bringing supplies to the planet and preparing the way for the colony to come through?
Posted on 11/16/14 at 2:07 pm to buckeye_vol
I've looked up a lot of people talking back and forth about this movie. This is the only place I've seen people ssying Jon Nolan, one of the two writers, is wrong. All of the conversation is based on what has been set in stone. The wormhole was closed. Any other conclusion is a clear and laughable case of denial. I don't think I've ever seen anything like this. 
Posted on 11/16/14 at 2:11 pm to abellsujr
quote:This makes no sense. Why go through all that to just sit by Saturn? They could do that anywhere. Making a conclusion about the wormhole because of what happened with Cooper? The writer is confused. The worm hole is open.
A note about the end. A lot of people think there is something more to do. Not really and no indication either. Do note that the wormhole is closed (that’s the tesseract breaking down, and that’s why Cooper is out of the black hole). There is no communication between Edmund and Earthlings. Earthlings are happily settled on various man modified satellites in our own solar system. This was achieved by completing the formula which allowed them to harness the levels of energy they needed for such an endeavour. Edmundians are fine by themselves. Everyone’s happy and getting along. While they are connected, both Plan A and Plan B worked out independent of each other.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 2:11 pm to RollTide1987
quote:It sounds like you have some great questions there. You should maybe ask one of the writers of the movie. Or maybe you shouldn't. Maybe you should just keep your own interpretation. It would be better for you that way.
In the final shot of Brand on the new planet, why did Old Murph refer to it as "our new home" and why were there multiple temporary structures on the planet's surface? Could it be possible that those pilots who were taking off from Cooper Station were going through the wormhole, bringing supplies to the planet and preparing the way for the colony to come through?
Posted on 11/16/14 at 2:13 pm to abellsujr
I bet if you looked at his initial story, just like any movie that gets passed along, you will find direct contradictions. Then what? If you are going to take the vision of an initial writer as the vision of a final film, you are going to see countless films that don't look anything line their final product. Pretending your perspective if the objective truth is just foolish, at least until the filmmaker, who had sole control of the final product confirms or denies it.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 2:14 pm to AlxTgr
quote:One of the two writers of the movie messes up the main plot point at the ending in an interview. He's completely incompetent and yet wrote most of the movie. You have the right to believe whatever you want. I give him more credit than that.
This makes no sense. Why go through all that to just sit by Saturn? They could do that anywhere. Making a conclusion about the wormhole because of what happened with Cooper? The writer is confused. The worm hole is open.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 2:17 pm to abellsujr
That's fine to take his initial interpretation as how you believe, but don't pretend it is fact when the film itself does not make that claim.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 2:18 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:Let's say you make a movie with your brother. You've made several movies with him up to this point. He does an interview with a very popular web site. He tells the interviewer the completely wrong ending to your huge blockbuster movie you just made. What do you do? Nothing? Until he comes out and says he disagrees with his brother, I choose to believe him.
I bet if you looked at his initial story, just like any movie that gets passed along, you will find direct contradictions. Then what? If you are going to take the vision of an initial writer as the vision of a final film, you are going to see countless films that don't look anything line their final product. Pretending your perspective if the objective truth is just foolish, at least until the filmmaker, who had sole control of the final product confirms or denies it.
This post was edited on 11/16/14 at 2:20 pm
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