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re: The official Interstellar thread (spoilers)
Posted on 11/15/14 at 5:17 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 11/15/14 at 5:17 pm to RollTide1987
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Every single character was was working toward trying to make Plan A succeed. Every one of them
And? Plan A was a lie. The plan was always for plan B.
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Posted on 11/15/14 at 5:19 pm to Byron Bojangles III
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And? Plan A was a lie. The plan was always for plan B.
I don't think the plan involved Coop going through a black hole and getting the solution to Murph so she could figure everything out for plan A to work though.
Posted on 11/15/14 at 5:23 pm to Byron Bojangles III
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Plan A was a lie.
If it was a lie then how did the space station get up off the ground? Plan A was always the dream and could be accomplished if the scientists figured out the equation.
This post was edited on 11/15/14 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 11/15/14 at 5:27 pm to Byron Bojangles III
There are a lot of tent like structures on Brand's planet (less than a dozen) at the end of the movie. So we have to believe one of two things.
1. The wormhole is closed as Jon Nolan has said. It's up to us to find Brand. Brand and Edmonds built the structures. They didn't show any other people on the planet, so she's getting ready for plan B. Cooper left Murph's colony to go out into space to try get to Brand.
2. The wormhole is open. Jon Nolan is wrong, misinformed, incompetent, what have you. People from Murph's colony are going through it to get to Brand's planet. They helped her build the tent structures. They are circling Saturn and not going through the portal yet for some reason (they better get there fast in case it closes). Cooper left Murph's colony to go to Brand very easily just having to go through the portal.
You pretty much have to pick one.
1. The wormhole is closed as Jon Nolan has said. It's up to us to find Brand. Brand and Edmonds built the structures. They didn't show any other people on the planet, so she's getting ready for plan B. Cooper left Murph's colony to go out into space to try get to Brand.
2. The wormhole is open. Jon Nolan is wrong, misinformed, incompetent, what have you. People from Murph's colony are going through it to get to Brand's planet. They helped her build the tent structures. They are circling Saturn and not going through the portal yet for some reason (they better get there fast in case it closes). Cooper left Murph's colony to go to Brand very easily just having to go through the portal.
You pretty much have to pick one.
This post was edited on 11/15/14 at 5:29 pm
Posted on 11/15/14 at 5:47 pm to RollTide1987
Michael Caine lied about plan A knowing it couldn't work. How do you not know this having seen the movie?
Posted on 11/15/14 at 5:48 pm to abellsujr
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This is pretty damn funny. It's like everybody's saying "I loved your movie, but your ending is all wrong. This is what really happened.....".
Because in a film that strives for scientific acuracy, it makes no fricking sense for it to be as Jonah described it. What, does this vehicle have the potential to go hundreds of millions of light years per second, somehow not kill him, and Coop spends less than a second in each solar system before instantly zapping off to another? There are hundreds of trillions of solar systems, so even if that pod is somehow equipped with this miracle machine, it's still highly improbable he reaches her without dying first.
Posted on 11/15/14 at 5:55 pm to OMLandshark
Like I said, you have to believe one of two things.
You mean like time travel and ghosts in bookshelves? It's a movie, bro.
quote:Scientific accuracy?
Because in a film that strives for scientific acuracy
You mean like time travel and ghosts in bookshelves? It's a movie, bro.This post was edited on 11/15/14 at 5:57 pm
Posted on 11/15/14 at 6:00 pm to abellsujr
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Yes one of the two writers and the brother of the director. If he's wrong, this movie and the people responsible have lost all credibility. They don't have their shite together.
Jon Nolan's creative mind is lacking. I see this whole issue as Chris stepping in and changing the ending so he can save his brother from himself
Posted on 11/15/14 at 6:01 pm to theunknownknight
quote:But his ending is based on what the interviewer saw. Clearly something is amiss here.
Jon Nolan's creative mind is lacking. I see this whole issue as Chris stepping in and changing the ending so he can save his brother from himself
This post was edited on 11/15/14 at 6:14 pm
Posted on 11/15/14 at 6:30 pm to abellsujr
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Scientific accuracy? You mean like time travel and ghosts in bookshelves? It's a movie, bro.
Actually, that is plausible. The only thing that makes it iffy as NdGT says is why they just don't put a direct Post-It note through the Fifth Dimension. Everything Cooper did while he was there is theoretically possible.
Posted on 11/15/14 at 6:32 pm to OMLandshark
quote:But not yet scientifically accurate.
Everything Cooper did while he was there is theoretically possible.
Posted on 11/15/14 at 7:03 pm to Byron Bojangles III
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Michael Caine lied about plan A knowing it couldn't work.
He knew it couldn't work but the other characters never gave up hope. Which means, if we are to believe Jonathan Nolan, they failed.
Posted on 11/15/14 at 7:05 pm to abellsujr
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But not yet scientifically accurate.
If everything in this movie was scientifically accurate then there wouldn't have been a movie. Wormholes are entirely theoretical themselves.
Posted on 11/15/14 at 7:06 pm to RollTide1987
Thank you for proving my point.
Posted on 11/15/14 at 7:13 pm to abellsujr
Folks, the Co writer of the story told us all what's up.
Until his comment is refuted by the other Co-writer, I can find no rational reason to call him a liar or a moron.
Until his comment is refuted by the other Co-writer, I can find no rational reason to call him a liar or a moron.
Posted on 11/15/14 at 7:18 pm to Champagne
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Until his comment is refuted by the other Co-writer, I can find no rational reason to call him a liar or a moron.
He's not a liar but he pretty much is a moron. By saying the wormhole doesn't exist anymore he pretty much destroys the premise of his brother's film.
Luckily there is no mention of Jonah's ideas in the film and thus audiences won't come away with Nolan's conclusions.
Posted on 11/15/14 at 7:18 pm to abellsujr
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Thank you for proving my point.
That it's a science fiction movie? You're a genius.
Posted on 11/15/14 at 7:21 pm to RollTide1987
quote:According to you, it's a religious movie.
That it's a science fiction movie? You're a genius.
And someone said earlier that it was "scientifically accurate". I just said it wasn't and you agreed.
Posted on 11/15/14 at 7:21 pm to RollTide1987
quote:If he's not a liar, is he telling the truth?
He's not a liar
quote:You mean yours.
Nolan's conclusions.
This post was edited on 11/15/14 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 11/15/14 at 7:24 pm to abellsujr
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If he's not a liar, is he telling the truth?
No. He's simply giving us his interpretation. Writer or no...I don't agree with it because there is no visual or audio evidence to support what he believes happens at the end of the film. There is so much more evidence to the contrary.
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