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re: The official I saw The Wolf of Wall Street thread

Posted on 12/26/13 at 1:22 pm to
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 12/26/13 at 1:22 pm to
I agree on Dallas Buyers Club

not so much on 12 years

I don't want to get into why on here, but in short they took an amazing story and botched the hell out of it knowing what they made would be enough to race bait viewers and voters into giving them what they want out of it.
This post was edited on 12/26/13 at 1:25 pm
Posted by MrCoachKlein
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 12/26/13 at 3:00 pm to
Leo kills it, loved the movie.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122919 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 3:05 pm to
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it knowing what they made would be enough to race bait viewers and voters into giving them what they want out of it.





there's nothing in there that's "race baiting" unless you're some kind of slavery denying retard.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19467 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 3:17 pm to
You obviously don't understand what I meant.

The film felt like it was poorly made, in my opinion,

I have a theory that sometimes movies that involve racial/historical issues get more love from viewers/voters because of the issue. Even if the film is not good.

I said the story is incredible and sad, but HOLLYWOOD did a poor job telling the story.

Just because a movie deals with race and/or slavery doesn't automatically qualify it to be awe inspiring cinema.
Posted by massiveattack
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Posted on 12/26/13 at 3:25 pm to
Lincoln would be a good example of that, not 12 years.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 12/26/13 at 3:30 pm to



I really don't know what to say to that. The only movie that gave me the feels at the end like 12 Years was Schindler's List.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/26/13 at 3:53 pm to
That whole thing with Bill Clinton presenting Lincoln at the Academy Awards and Michelle Obama presenting the Best Picture award seemed a bit much.

Appeared that they really expected Lincoln to win.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 12/26/13 at 4:27 pm to
Well. . . I have a very different opinion about The Wolf of Wall Street than most on this board. I've given it some thought, and I think Wolf is the worst Scorsese movie I've seen (granted, there are many I haven't seen). It certainly doesn't compare to Scorsese's great works (Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, Goodfellas, The Departed, etc.), and IMO it's not in the same ballpark as some of this year's likely Best Picture candidates (American Hustle, 12 Years a Slave).

Some thoughts on the movie. It was all over the place. It was long, and unlike many people, the time did not fly by for me - it dragged on. I didn't find any of the performances to be great. Leo was good, as always, but this performance isn't in the same zip code as his previous masterworks (The Aviator, The Departed). If he wins Best Actor for this, it will be a make-up award for past robberies. Hill was good, nothing special. And Robbie was terrible. I don't know what everyone saw in her performance (apart from her undeniably sexy body), but it was not good.

There were some funny moments in the movie, but not that many. Scorsese is - well, should be - better than physical humor: jerking off, sticking candles in asses, guys paralyzed by drugs, etc. I don't find any of that shite funny. It felt like amateur hour. . . Then again, I'm sure most audiences enjoy that stuff. They should go watch Grudge Match or something.

There were a few scenes I thought were great and should have had a place in a much better movie: the early scene with McConaughey, the yacht scene with the FBI, the speech re: Steve Madden IPO. But overall, I think Scorsese really missed an opportunity with this one.

Overall score: 6/10.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116180 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 4:47 pm to
I just got out an im damn near speechless, it was a fun freakin movie


It didnt matter how many times i heard how much tits and drugs there were i still wasnt prepared for that opening and the rest of the movie that followed, long movie but the time flew by

Tits and drugs man, tits and fricking drugs.
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 12/26/13 at 5:02 pm to
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I just got out an im damn near speechless, it was a fun freakin movie


When you get down to it, this is pretty much my opinion.

Will it be remembered as an all time classic? Not a chance in hell. But it was fun and it delivered on its promise of showing rich dirtbags behaving very badly.

I thought Leo was great but if he gets an award nod, it will be (probably) a makeup for previous slights but I can live with that and I think Jonah Hill should at least get a nomination because he hit his role out of the park. So did McConaughey but his was a lot shorter.

It was three hours of Leo and Scorcese letting loose and having some fun. I enjoyed it. I knew going in it wasn't going to be Saving Private Ryan.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116180 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 5:06 pm to
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So did McConaughey but his was a lot shorter.


Reminds me of Baldwin in GGGR, as blaphemous as that may seem. He killed it
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77270 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 5:34 pm to
Just saw it. Good movie. Soooooooooooo much t&a.

Naomi is amazingly hot.

Jonah Hill was great in his role.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116180 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 6:14 pm to
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Just saw it. Good movie. Soooooooooooo much t&a.



"DID YOU JUST frickING SAY T &A?!!!!"


"I said T&E!! "
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116180 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 6:16 pm to
Btw theres gonna be some GREAT gifs that come from this movie
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77270 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 6:18 pm to
Amazing .gifs that can never be posted on here.

Margot Robbie will have websites dedicated to her .gifs.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116180 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 6:20 pm to
very true


Im thinking theres a safe on of him throw cocaine around on top of the boat when everyone is dancing im rhythm is safe for here. I didnt notice any tits in that one, although i had seen so many, they may not have stuck out at this point
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77270 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 6:27 pm to
I expect at least a few .gifs of Leo's cerebral palsy crawl.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 6:34 pm to
Him crawling to his car would make a good "In."
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116180 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 6:43 pm to
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I expect at least a few .gifs of Leo's cerebral palsy crawl.


I feel like that scene was half the movie
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477231 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 7:31 pm to
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Could have been great but Scorcesse spent an hour on bullshite that could have been established with much little time.

i thought the movie was very entertaining and it had some really great performances. it was really funny and pretty engaging

but it did drag on and needed a lot of editing. it was derivative also...we've seen this movie before. hell anything actually involving the FBI was stupid, because they didn't spend any real time on the investigation. it was the reverse deus ex machina, in how it just fell into their laps. the movie wasted a lot of time establishing the conflict with the FBI when it was silly...we've all seen these movies before, and hell we've all seen the previews. we knew the coppers were going to go after them and "Get them" at some point.

8/10

not worth going to see in theaters, except to watch old people leave early
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