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re: The Odyssey Trailer #2

Posted on 5/13/26 at 9:29 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 9:29 am to
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He just said it didn't exist back then so it didn't matter


And steel existed?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 9:30 am to
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It's really the only way to go about dissecting a 3 hour movie that hasn't aired yet.


Analyzing what information we have and making predictions =/= critically analyzing the movie itself.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 9:31 am to
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Say what you want about the flaws but Troy nails a lot of things Nolan appears to have whiffed on badly.


Sorry, not all, just whiffed on badly. Ridley Scott nails them, Nolan whiffs badly (movie yet to be released fwiw).
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 9:35 am to
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And steel existed?


Did you read the next sentences I wrote
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 9:39 am to
Sirens didn't exist

Cyclops didn't exist.

The gods...didn't exist.



Instead of endlessly melting about the stuff you've been presented, perhaps start thinking about why Nolan is presenting these things in the manner he is, and try to figure out his perspective and what narrative filmmaking he is trying to achieve here.

I think we can agree that a guy like Nolan does not do things without some level of narrative purpose.
Posted by Kinderman
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 9:39 am to
FWIW, the Oppenheimer trailer was really well received here, almost universally:

LINK

So it's not like this board is some anti-Nolan circlejerk. Odyssey trailer just looks like dogshit.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 9:40 am to
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Ridley Scott nails them


You mean Wolfgang Peterson?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 9:58 am to
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Did you read the next sentences I wrote

If it's from the Odyssean POV, the limitation still exists. Even within the "he's an unreliable narrator" the information must flow from Odysseus, and steel didn't exist for him to create that fantasy.

He may be the symbol of intelligence, but he hadn't invented steel. Had he, the war wouldn't have lasted 10 years

Now, going back to the context, if you're going so far back as to argue "this is pure fantasy and has no basis in reality' then that's the direct response to the X content creator AND those melting about race. Removing the story completely from reality dissolves all of those arguments, b/c, like the Celtics' winning the title...




No direct conflict exists with my comments.

And Nolan's comments about orchestras become even more retarded.
This post was edited on 5/13/26 at 9:59 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 9:59 am to
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Sirens didn't exist

Cyclops didn't exist.

The gods...didn't exist.


"Orchestras didn't exist"

-Chris Nolan
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 10:03 am to
What don't you get about this? He was making an off hand comment to someone about orchestras. It was in response to people saying he has to have an orchestral score in a film like this.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 10:26 am to
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What don't you get about this? He was making an off hand comment to someone about orchestras. It was in response to people saying he has to have an orchestral score in a film like this.

And the justification was retarded, just like the Travis Scott stuff.

Here is the quote

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It’s not like the orchestra existed back then.


Here is how it overlaps with your last post

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It’s not like the Sirens existed

It’s not like the Cyclops existed

It’s not like the gods existed


Same thing. Picking one as some defense of reality/historical accuracy while ignoring the others isn't consistent (for Nolan). Either it's reality based, or it's not. And if it's not, I'm fine with that, but it makes his comments about the orchestra and Travis Scott retarded.

This conflict just gives more defense for the prediction that this movie is going to be a mess. It doesn't sound planned out or logically designed in any way.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 10:32 am to
Yes, it’s a 40% drop because they chose to not recast & instead killed off the character as well. Terrible idea to all those lil BP fans out there. Worst part is they knew he was dying, didn’t care, and instead pushed forward with girl BP because of The Message, because of M - She - U.

Me disingenuous? Not one bit. They did this.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 12:45 pm to
quote:

Sirens didn't exist

Cyclops didn't exist.

The gods...didn't exist.

Posted by WheyCheddar
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 5:19 pm to
You can smell the stench of this POS from miles away. Do yourself a favor and disown it sight unseen so you’re well ahead of the curve.
Nolan is just McG with a bigger budget.
Posted by DesScorp
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Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 6:02 pm to
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This is going to get good to great critical reviews, make a bunch of money, and this board is going to hate it.


Yeah, no. Two out of three. I'd hold my breath on the making money part.
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 6:16 pm to
Nolan has gone off the reservation. What a pompous douche with that orchestra line. The word “dad” didn’t either. If Idiocracy had their version of the Odyssey, it would probably be Nolan’s from the sounds of it. Maybe we will get some Travis Scott instead of the orchestra.
This post was edited on 5/14/26 at 6:19 pm
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 3:34 pm to
Posted by sgallo3
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Posted on 5/22/26 at 4:46 pm to
Just saw this and thought it was pretty funny
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Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 5/22/26 at 4:58 pm to
Me and my bladder need them to bring intermissions back.
Posted by BigNastyTiger417
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Posted on 5/22/26 at 6:31 pm to
Gtfo. Go watch another Marvel movie
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