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Yeah idk I feel Like he does too much outside Galadriel’s view that makes me think he isn’t Sauron.

If he was doing all this blacksmith stuff so Galadriel could see him then it’s part of a plan to get in good with her.

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That is why I think he is not.

To be honest I do not think we have seen Sauron.

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wasn't hooked on this show until I figured out that there's a game inside of the broader plot. The game is to figure out who Sauron is or when will Sauron show up. It sort of works out like a murder mystery and you're deciding who's the killer?

I don't know if the producers had this in mind when they made it, but the whole Who's Sauron part is what's got me hooked. That and all of visuals. When they panned over the island kingdom, that was some seriously epic and breathtaking CGI shite.

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I agree and think Sauron could end up with the best story arc in the show.

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Do you think the elves will listen to a human?

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In this case yes.

From the book

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Although Sauron knew that Men were easier to sway, he sought to bring the Elves into his service, as they were far more powerful. By about SA 1500, Sauron put on a fair visage and called himself Annatar, the "Lord of Gifts". He befriended the Elf smiths of Eregion, including Celebrimbor (greatest of craftsmen, as he was descended from Fëanor), and counselled them in arts and magic. Not all the Elves trusted him, particularly Lady Galadriel, Elrond, and Gil-galad, High King of the Ñoldor.

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If you research that a little further, you will see that Annatar claims to come from Valinor as "Lord of Gifts".
So, that goes the other direction from being a human.

Lore info- Annatar was turned away from Lindon by Gil Galad, who did not trust him, and did not allow him to enter.
Also importantly, while he was welcomed by Celebrimbor into Eregion, Galadriel was there, and did not trust him either.

I know they will hop around some, but I think the important bits are that Gil Galad doesn't buy his tale and will refuse entry, and also that Galadriel smells something up.

Galadriel seems to trust Halbrand; I think this rules him out.
Halbrand knows blacksmithing, learned it from someone in the South... and Orcs have driven him from his lands. I think there's the connection. Sauron desires to sway the Elves, but he did a practice run with Men, just, no Rings. But maybe, swords? Is that where the kid's hidden sword comes from? It seems clearly made by Sauron, or at least with his influence.

Just considering what I wrote, I'd say Halbrand is the reason Galadriel will oppose Annatar, but the Elves, especially Celebrimbor, will distrust the words of a Southern Man. They will think he's just being spiteful due to their occupation, and Arondir will not escape with proof something is seriously wrong (at least, not in time).

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Is there a consensus that Meteor Man is Gandalf?

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No, a lot of people think that he might be one of the blue wizards.

After the first two episodes, we actually had a bunch of people here who thought that he might be Sauron.

Those gloves looked familiar

Just saying

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Unlikely. That guy, Adar, has elven ears. Adar means "father." He is likely an elf corrupted by Morgoth, perhaps one of the Avari

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Morgoth abducted them very, very early on, like possibly before even Finwe was born, nevertheless Fëanor and Galadriel. It wasn’t anytime within the past several thousand years.

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Galadriel seems to trust Halbrand; I think this rules him out.

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I stated this earlier why I do not think it is him.

Many questions to be answered still as to who is Sauron in the show? If he has been introduced at all yet? Who is the stranger? Who is Adar? And what do the Dwarves have in the box?

For me the most interesting parts so far of the series and nothing to do with Galadriel on her joy ride around Middle Earth.

He could easily be the witch king.

Questionable morals.

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I'm no Tolkien scholar, but I'd bet my next paycheck that the Moon Man is Gandalph.

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I think you might go hungry for a week...

I think Gandalf is the suckers bet. Outside of being something that looks like and tall thin old man and some need for Gandalf to be in the story I think the reality is the clues thin out after that. I think this is a purposeful misdirection.

I think "he" may be one of the Blue Wizards but only if the constellation is leading both of them to a rally point. The longer it goes without them either coming together or the arc is revealed that the Stranger is trying to find someone the less likely he is to be a Blue Wizard.

If I actually had to bet I would say it is a Maia and possibly a Balrog. The question is whether a Balrog can take that close of a human form. I don't think their shifting ability was ever fully nailed down.