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re: The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power S1, Ep. 1 and 2 Thread | Amazon 9:00 pm EDT

Posted on 9/4/22 at 2:27 pm to
Posted by FreddieMac
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 2:27 pm to
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It would be fine as a generic fantasy, not great but not horrible. It is though an abomination as a Tolkien work. Race is far from the biggest issue. The wife of Durin and Durin himself are so over the top, sitcom like characters. Elrond and breaking rocks, dumb as shite. Add in the elf buzzcuts and the Lady Galadriel as “Leader of the Northern Army” and the feel is all off.


Whoever wrote this series really never read or care about the Simurillian. Elron is a prince, not just some political elf; his character is alll wrong. Galadriel was never a warrior princess. She was a keeper of lore and later ringbearer.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35381 posts
Posted on 9/4/22 at 7:00 pm to
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Not going to be commenting on the show that much from here,
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 8:21 pm to
For some reason the creatives who get paid way too much money for this sort of stuff insist on making their female stars insufferable Mary Sues.

What really is laughable is how Guyladriel is seen stacking up all those helmets of the fallen soldiers. And yet we’re supposed to believe that she is the only one amongst all the elves who has this “driving rage“ for revenge against Sauron?

Because nobody else lost a brother, husband, father, or son in the battle of the sudden flame.

Just her.

F all of that in every opening. Twice.
Posted by Civildawg
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 8:21 pm to
So after watching the first two, and not being a Tolkien reader. This just seems ok. It’s not terrible but it’s not great either. The jumping in the water, so stupid. The strong, warrior woman is such a tired story line. I mean no other elf even took a swing at the snow troll in the beginning except her. The worst of all though has to be the black dwarf woman. It really takes you out of the scene. The pacing needs to pick up also. We are 25% done with the season and not much has happened
Posted by Civildawg
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 8:27 pm to
Yeah the opening is bad. I can understand why Tolkien fans are pissed. Amazon spends all this money to try to make a good LOTR series and they have these elementary, try to make females feel good, scenes. It’s doing an injustice to his works.
Posted by Nerd
Member since Dec 2019
1016 posts
Posted on 9/4/22 at 8:47 pm to
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I can understand why Tolkien fans are pissed


The show is so much better than anything Tolkien has written, so yeah, I can see why they're pissed as well
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13209 posts
Posted on 9/4/22 at 9:07 pm to
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Rings of Power snared more 25 million viewers in its first day, according to the Jeff Bezos founded streamer.

Bezo’s as the source of the success. Are we suppose to believe he would announce anything negative about his on show?
This post was edited on 9/5/22 at 7:17 am
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 9:11 pm to
I mean, investors would sue if Bezos we're lying. So, he's not.
Posted by Jay Are
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Member since Nov 2014
6132 posts
Posted on 9/4/22 at 9:20 pm to
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Amazon spends all this money to try to make a good LOTR series and they have these elementary, try to make females feel good, scenes.


Establishing an evil presence by way of personal stakes is "trying to make females feel good"? There are things I don't like about the opening, but this is a stupid take.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 9/4/22 at 11:35 pm to
LSU vs Florida state had more viewers than LSU VS Oregon. Doesn’t mean it was a better product.
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
16562 posts
Posted on 9/5/22 at 12:12 am to
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Hell the black elf guy was the best elf portrayed.


I like him also. His lady friend has some nice stuff going on too. The rest of the show is arse though. I don't mind mixing in different races for the actors but is every couple interracial? I really dislike all of the harfoots or whatever the frick they're called. They all seem mildly retarded. What a collosal waste of money.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79455 posts
Posted on 9/5/22 at 12:15 am to
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LSU vs Florida state had more viewers than LSU VS Oregon. Doesn’t mean it was a better product.


Still making up facts to support your argument.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
54726 posts
Posted on 9/5/22 at 12:45 am to
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So after watching the first two, and not being a Tolkien reader. This just seems ok. It’s not terrible but it’s not great either. The jumping in the water, so stupid. The strong, warrior woman is such a tired story line. I mean no other elf even took a swing at the snow troll in the beginning except her. The worst of all though has to be the black dwarf woman. It really takes you out of the scene. The pacing needs to pick up also. We are 25% done with the season and not much has happened


This right here nailed it for me also.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
47272 posts
Posted on 9/5/22 at 4:37 am to
The paper boat scene alone is anti-Tolkien . Elves are described as having a love and curiosity for learning. They excel at creating and artwork. Little girl’s origami boat would be cool to see. How did they react in this show?

Directly opposite of what Tolkien would have written. They’re acting more like human kids, or orcs.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13209 posts
Posted on 9/5/22 at 7:19 am to
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I mean, investors would sue if Bezos we're lying. So, he's not.


Investors would also be questioning numbers without a 3rd party validation. Maybe the numbers are true but let’s see them from someone outside of Amazon or it’s entities. Just saying because Enron was reporting their own numbers as well
This post was edited on 9/5/22 at 7:20 am
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13209 posts
Posted on 9/5/22 at 7:27 am to
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Hell the black elf guy was the best elf portrayed.


I agree and look forward to his story arc.

In regards to the item in the chest the dwarves are hiding I have not seen talked about. Could it be Mithril? I saw in upcoming previews a Balrog and iirc they dug deep for it Moria and released the Balrog
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13209 posts
Posted on 9/5/22 at 7:36 am to
Actually wrong age as Durin’s Bane is 3rd age in the Mines of Moria so maybe it is Gothmog
Posted by MRF
Member since Dec 2021
822 posts
Posted on 9/5/22 at 7:52 am to
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Actually wrong age as Durin’s Bane is 3rd age in the Mines of Moria so maybe it is Gothmog


Wrong age, he should be dead already. Isn’t the show supposed to be second age? I haven’t watched it yet.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
54726 posts
Posted on 9/5/22 at 10:19 am to
Can someone explain something for me? At the beginning they go east to middle earth to fight evil. Later the small band is allowed to travel back west for eternal life.

Are they going back to where the show started - where we saw the paper boat scene?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79455 posts
Posted on 9/5/22 at 10:20 am to
Yes.
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