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re: The Lord of the Rings: Rings of Power premiers Sept 2, 2022 on Amazon Prime
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:00 pm to sledgehammer
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:00 pm to sledgehammer
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I can’t wait for the social justice messages and diversity. Maybe there will be transgender black orc.
People who let politics bleed into every aspect of their lives have got to be the most miserable people in this country.
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Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:01 pm to The Godfather
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For Gods sake shut the frick up. You fricks who say this shite in every thread are ruining this fricking once great board.
True, movie snobs are the ones who are supposed to be ruining the board.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:03 pm to PillageUrVillage
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At least with LotR they have a solid blueprint to reference. Will they choose to follow it?
ETA: And by blueprint I don't mean just the literature. The other highly successful production.
As well as the less successful Hobbit trilogy for comparison.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:06 pm to Philzilla2k
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What chapter is the black tranny orc in?
Do you think they are putting the tranny orcs on the front lines? It was probably in a support role such as logistics.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:07 pm to Starchild
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Newsflash: LOTR has always had a ton of different species and races since the very beginning. Shocking I know.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:07 pm to PsychTiger
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Do you think they are putting the tranny orcs on the front lines? It was probably in a support role such as logistics.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:22 pm to NWHoustonTiger
You guys who are all pissy because people are worried about political propaganda in LOTR must just not pay attention. I would love to not have to worry about it, but the people who make movies and series shove it down our throats every chance they get these days--often at the expense of good story telling.
I saw a comment alleging that people who are worried about this being “woke” are ruining this “once-great board”. You got it wrong, man. Hollywood is the problem. The people you are complaining about are the ones who want politics out of film. It’s the entertainment industry who has forgotten how to make a movie or series without all the cringe/woke/hyper-political messaging over the last 6 or 7 years. It’s not even well done. There’s no subtlety to it. They just slap you in the face with it and tell you to like it.
I saw a comment alleging that people who are worried about this being “woke” are ruining this “once-great board”. You got it wrong, man. Hollywood is the problem. The people you are complaining about are the ones who want politics out of film. It’s the entertainment industry who has forgotten how to make a movie or series without all the cringe/woke/hyper-political messaging over the last 6 or 7 years. It’s not even well done. There’s no subtlety to it. They just slap you in the face with it and tell you to like it.
This post was edited on 1/19/22 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:38 pm to LSUBoo
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most expensive show ever i'd say production value will be the best
You would think so... but did you watch The Wheel Of Time also produced by Amazon?
WoT was cut from 10 to 8 episodes and the showrunner, while not flat out complaining about the budget, alluded to LOTR sucking up so much of the budget that he feels it impacted his show.
That's not to say WoT couldn't have been better, but LOTR shouldn't have any excuses because they're getting the Lion's share of the resources.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 1:04 pm to CatholicLSUDude
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I saw a comment alleging that people who are worried about this being “woke” are ruining this “once-great board”. You got it wrong, man.
Well, at one point, this was by far the best board on TD. You werent on here, so you cant really say that he got it wrong.
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The people you are complaining about are the ones who want politics out of film. It’s the entertainment industry who has forgotten how to make a movie or series without all the cringe/woke/hyper-political messaging over the last 6 or 7 years. It’s not even well done. There’s no subtlety to it. They just slap you in the face with it and tell you to like it.
Woke movies for the most part suck. I think most on here would agree with that. But if its woke, then just dont watch it. Its pretty simple. You said you wish you didnt have to worry about it. Its pretty easy to do. People are already complaining about the show being woke and it hasn't even come out yet. So yes, that is freaking miserable and it happens all the time and it drags the enjoyment of this board down. Its guys like you that go into shows looking for things to complain about.
You're like the guy in a thread about The Boys the other day. He complained about 10 different things about how the show turned woke in season 2. I watched S2 and literally not once did I give any thought to it being woke because I didnt go into it looking for reasons to bitch. Turns out, %90 of what he was complaining about was following source material.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 1:33 pm to iwyLSUiwy
So I just read a new article about the show.
A lot of it is off cannon. I didn't realize that was already announced.
Why in the world would this be a priority? That is the dumbest way to approach this. "I know this is the greatest fantasy series of all time and we know that The Silmarillion is incredible and beautifully written and well loved... but we like our story better."
A lot of it is off cannon. I didn't realize that was already announced.
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Three lead actors have been announced: Robert Aramayo (Game of Thrones) will star as Beldor, an "experienced fighter"; Markella Kavengeh (Picnic at Hanging Rock) will play Tyra, an "empathetic" individual who's likely an elf; and Joseph Mawle (Game of Thrones'Uncle Benjen) will star as Oren, the lead villain. It's worth noting that none of these characters are Tolkien characters—all are new, original characters. Moryfdd Clark will follow in Cate Blanchett's footsteps as Galadriel, suggesting that other familiar roles, like Elrond, may be recast.
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Thinking outside of Tolkien's box seems to be a priority for the show
Why in the world would this be a priority? That is the dumbest way to approach this. "I know this is the greatest fantasy series of all time and we know that The Silmarillion is incredible and beautifully written and well loved... but we like our story better." quote:
Sir Lenny Henry will play a Harfoot, a type of hobbit described by Tolkien as having darker skin. But, and this is important, hobbits didn't come along until the Third Age, meaning that adding hobbit characters to a Second Age story is a major break with the canon. Henry sees it as a step forward for inclusivity in fantasy, saying:
“I’m a Harfoot, because J.R.R. Tolkien, who was also from Birmingham, suddenly there were Black hobbits. I’m a Black hobbit; it’s brilliant. What’s notable about this run of the books, it's a prequel to the age that we’ve seen in the films. It's about the early days of the Shire and Tolkien’s environment, so we’re an indigenous population of Harfoots. We’re hobbits but we’re called Harfoots. We’re multi-cultural. We’re a tribe, not a race, so we’re Black, Asian, and brown—even Maori types within it.”
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Posted on 1/19/22 at 1:42 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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A lot of it is off cannon.
Well, yeah. It’s all stories from the Second Age, which Tolkien never really fleshed out in any meaningful way.
This post was edited on 1/19/22 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 1/19/22 at 1:48 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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Why in the world would this be a priority? That is the dumbest way to approach this. "I know this is the greatest fantasy series of all time and we know that The Silmarillion is incredible and beautifully written and well loved... but we like our story better."
…because that’s what these people do, man. They destroy. Tolkien was an orthodox Catholic and it permeates everything he created. You can’t have that in todays world because of (drumroll please)…
Progressive ideology and politics.
This post was edited on 1/19/22 at 7:14 pm
Posted on 1/19/22 at 2:07 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Then maybe a few episodes in some of you Politards won’t watch and we can have some decent show threads again.
Nope, all that would mean is the show is cancelled quickly due to lack of interest.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 2:10 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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Sir Lenny Henry will play a Harfoot, a type of hobbit described by Tolkien as having darker skin. But, and this is important, hobbits didn't come along until the Third Age, meaning that adding hobbit characters to a Second Age story is a major break with the canon. Henry sees it as a step forward for inclusivity in fantasy, saying:
“I’m a Harfoot, because J.R.R. Tolkien, who was also from Birmingham, suddenly there were Black hobbits. I’m a Black hobbit; it’s brilliant. What’s notable about this run of the books, it's a prequel to the age that we’ve seen in the films. It's about the early days of the Shire and Tolkien’s environment, so we’re an indigenous population of Harfoots. We’re hobbits but we’re called Harfoots. We’re multi-cultural. We’re a tribe, not a race, so we’re Black, Asian, and brown—even Maori types within it.”
Wow. This might be the worst possible thing they could have said about this entire show. They are clearly focused on the wrong thing if they went out of their way to create an entirely new race of hobbits just so they could shoehorn in black ones.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 2:11 pm to imjustafatkid
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Nope, all that would mean is the show is cancelled quickly due to lack of interest.
Part of the 250 million dollar deal with the Tolkien estate was it had to be at least 5 seasons. So they are under contract for 5.
So its not getting cancelled anytime. Regardless of the product they put out.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 2:12 pm to SoonerK
quote:The irony of this statement is absolutely thermonuclear.
People who let politics bleed into every aspect of their lives have got to be the most miserable people in this country.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 2:13 pm to PillageUrVillage
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At least with LotR they have a solid blueprint to reference. Will they choose to follow it?
ETA: And by blueprint I don't mean just the literature. The other highly successful production.
And an object lesson for what to avoid (The Hobbit)
Posted on 1/19/22 at 2:15 pm to imjustafatkid
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Nope, all that would mean is the show is cancelled quickly due to lack of interest.
Hate to bust your bubble, but most of the people in this country lives do not revolve around obsessive political beliefs. I am sure there are other small pockets of the internet where you can do your political movie circle jerks.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 2:16 pm to udtiger
Tolkien is a tall task imo. I get the concerns for the politics but you'll lose a lot of people if you start changing too much
Posted on 1/19/22 at 2:17 pm to sorantable
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Well, yeah. It’s all stories from the Second Age, which Tolkien never really fleshed out in any meaningful way.
No its not. Not from what i've read. The very 1st picture released from the show was way before the 2nd age, I mean the two trees of Valinor are still alive. Hobbits being in it shows 3rd age. Lets not act like they dont have anything to go upon.
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