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re: 'The Last of Us' Season 2 Discussion Thread | No Game Spoilers/Discussion
Posted on 5/20/25 at 3:20 pm to Corinthians420
Posted on 5/20/25 at 3:20 pm to Corinthians420
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I don't know why warner bros is insisting on these 7-8 episode seasons
Because they are cheaper to make and theoretically make them back about the same amount of money. Quality of the product is probably not much of a consideration.
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Posted on 5/20/25 at 3:32 pm to drizztiger
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The same source material is mostly failing on screen.
I’d argue it’s strayed enough from the source material to not be held to the same standard as the game.
They’ve changed a lot.
They also casted a bad Ellie which is their biggest problem.
Posted on 5/20/25 at 3:46 pm to nosaj
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They also casted a bad Ellie which is their biggest problem.
Maybe it it was the Ellie that was in the game, I don't blame anyone but the show runners at this point.
This post was edited on 5/20/25 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 5/20/25 at 4:49 pm to nosaj
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same source material
Should have never been a second game to begin with. The original game is the only story worth telling.
The second game's story is so goddamn bleak and pessimistic idk how anyone could finish the game and say it was anything other than a complete waste of time.
Posted on 5/20/25 at 5:07 pm to Corinthians420
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The last of us source material is finished with a good ending.
That’s debatable at best, and this is coming from someone who enjoyed TLOU2.
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I think they could have finished in 20 episodes for s2 and s3. Trying to finish in 14 just seems impossible though.
First off, if they can finish this part in 7 episodes then they can absolutely finish the whole thing in 14. They may not be able to expand things the way they want, but yes they can finish the story.
Remember, we are theoretically going to reach the midway point of TLOU2 in 7 episodes this season. They will have spent a whopping three of those seven episodes on the main story line. Meanwhile they spent an equal amount (three episodes) on the prologue plus one episode on a flashback (albeit a necessary one IMO).
If they think what they’re doing this season is good, then they ought to be able to do the same in season 3. In fact they ought to be able to do it better - condense the season 3 “prologue” to one or two episodes, spend 4-6 episodes on the main story line, and condense the epilogue to one episode or better yet, leave it out and hold onto that story for their theoretical season 4. Now they have 50-100% more time to tell the main story than they did in season 2.
Also, all of this assumes they can’t just.. do an 8-10 episode season 3. Which would probably make the most sense.
Posted on 5/20/25 at 5:13 pm to Corinthians420
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Its still the best show currently airing now that Andor is over, so it should be the last one on the chopping block.
I’d argue it’s not even the best current show on HBO right now. That’s Hacks.
I enjoyed the most recent episode even as a flashback. But agree with others that it lays bare the deficiencies without Pedro Pascal. They’re going to have to dive into the other factions and their dynamics for people to continue to watch.
Posted on 5/20/25 at 5:42 pm to lostinbr
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Remember, we are theoretically going to reach the midway point of TLOU2 in 7 episodes this season.
we aren't. they will have next season to get us to the final 1/3rd.
so far we only have the 1st 1/3rd this season.
Posted on 5/20/25 at 9:57 pm to Corinthians420
The only way we get to the midway point in the series finale is if they cram A LOT in or leave A LOT out. I’m betting on the latter.
This post was edited on 5/20/25 at 9:58 pm
Posted on 5/21/25 at 5:00 am to nosaj
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The only way we get to the midway point in the series finale is if they cram A LOT in or leave A LOT out. I’m betting on the latter.
Why would you bet we get to the midpoint when the show runner is publicly stating he needs 2 more seasons to finish?
Seems like he is saying they didn't make it halfway this season
Posted on 5/21/25 at 8:38 am to BluegrassBelle
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I’d argue it’s not even the best current show on HBO right now. That’s Hacks.
It's at best the 3rd best show on HBO currently airing. Hacks and The Rehearsal are lightyears ahead of it.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 9:16 am to Corinthians420
You’re right, I’m trying to infuse the logical season breaking point into a show that has thrown logic out the window.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 9:23 am to iwyLSUiwy
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Hacks and The Rehearsal are lightyears ahead of it
Not in any measurable statistic.
Even if you like the other show more, you have to admit The Last of Us is the much bigger draw and way more important to HBO.
This post was edited on 5/21/25 at 9:33 am
Posted on 5/21/25 at 9:38 am to Corinthians420
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Not in any measurable statistic
Ahh yes, I forgot the statistics!
You're right, I'll make sure I check the stats on viewership numbers because a 30 minute comedy should definitely statistically be out performing a big budget drama based off one of the most popular video games of all time.
I probably won't bother watching any of the shows and basing it on what is on my screen, I'll just check the data sheets from now on! Sorry I'm old school and like to make the determination for myself, not analytics.
The Last of Us probably cleaned house at the Emmy's winning for best drama series, writing, directing, and lead actress right? Or was that Hacks? I forget.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 9:42 am to Corinthians420
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you have to admit The Last of Us is the much bigger draw and way more important to HBO.
Sure. It's supposed to be. But the other two are just better shows in general. Just like I personally don't eat much junk food because it's a waste, I don't watch junk TV, it's not worth the time. There are better things out there to watch, not just the stuff HBO throws in your face when you open up the app.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 9:43 am to iwyLSUiwy
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The Last of Us probably cleaned house at the Emmy's winning for best drama series, writing, directing, and lead actress right? Or was that Hacks? I forget.
Umm they have 8 Emmy's and 9 Emmy's.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 9:48 am to Corinthians420
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Umm they have 8 Emmy's and 9 Emmy's.
How many of them relating to the directing, writing, and acting?
Of course they have some for visuals and sound. Nobody is arguing the show doesn't look good. The argument is the writing is shite.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 9:49 am to Corinthians420
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Not in any measurable statistic.
Even if you like the other show more, you have to admit The Last of Us is the much bigger draw and way more important to HBO.
TLUS has a built in fanbase because it's based on a wildly popular video game. So of course it's going to have some higher levels of viewership out of the gate.
Hacks has been a critical, award winning success. And it's consistently been good every season.
This show has not. It's taken a nosedive this season.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 9:50 am to iwyLSUiwy
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There are better things out there to watch, not just the stuff HBO throws in your face when you open up the app
Well people that dont have HBO also prefer The Last of Us over the other HBO shows. You are comparing niche shows to the biggest thing currently on tv (Andor was going back and forth for #1 with TLOU).
Surely you realize what other people like has a bigger influence on shows getting extended than your personal preferences. If you think TLOU is floundering wouldnt that mean everything below it is as well?
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Hacks and The Rehearsal are lightyears ahead of it.
Doesn't seem to be to be the case
This post was edited on 5/21/25 at 9:58 am
Posted on 5/21/25 at 9:51 am to iwyLSUiwy
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You're right, I'll make sure I check the stats on viewership numbers because a 30 minute comedy should definitely statistically be out performing a big budget drama based off one of the most popular video games of all time.
HBO max isn't releasing the numbers for the last of us anymore, so we have no idea how it's doing. It's very odd that they released numbers the first two weeks and then stopped. We got numbers every week for the white lotus because numbers kept growing week after week.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 9:52 am to iwyLSUiwy
TLOU S2 currently has 39% RT audience score.
I'm not big into RT, but that's down from 86% for S1 from the same source.
I'm not big into RT, but that's down from 86% for S1 from the same source.
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