re: 'The Last of Us' Season 2 Discussion Thread | No Game Spoilers/Discussion

You really are tone deaf. it's amazing.

After my last post you think what I really wanted was more stats and graphs?

I don't give two shits about active torrenters. I fully expect The Last of Us, a big budget show based off one of the most popular video games of all time to have more torrenters and more engagement than a 30 minute comedy that is led by two females.

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Surely you realize what other people like has a bigger influence on shows getting extended than your personal preferences.

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What? Where am I saying that?

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If you think TLOU is floundering wouldnt that mean everything below it is as well?

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Not at all A low brow under the radar show just gaining ground in popularity like The Rehearsal isn't defining it's success off torrenters. That's not really hard to understand.

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TLOU S2 currently has 39% RT audience score.

I'm not big into RT, but that's down from 86% for S1 from the same source.

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Even the IMDB episode ratings (which seem to avoid the bots and trolls more than RT) are way down.

IN season one, 8 of the 9 episodes were considered highly rated, only one of them registering below 8.1/10. This season only two are highly rated and the only two registering above a 5.5/10.

STATS!

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A low brow under the radar show just gaining ground in popularity like The Rehearsal isn't defining it's success off torrenters. That's not really hard to understand.

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It's interesting that he's arguing with a group of posters that generally don't argue with him about everything, like some of the usual suspects.

And the idea of using torrent tracking data to justify the quality of S2 of the show is truly laughable. The writing on the show is bad and people are torrenting the show can co-exist. He's the only one arguing that there's a correlation between quality and popularity.

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Popularity is a correlation of quality.

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It absolutely is not. Your whole contention is fundamentally flawed.

Google AI for giggles:

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No, popularity does not necessarily correlate with quality. While popular items often attract attention and sales, their quality can vary widely. Quality is often subjective, influenced by individual preferences, and can be difficult to define. Popularity can be driven by factors beyond intrinsic worth, such as marketing, branding, and social trends.

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Popularity is a correlation of quality.
It absolutely is not. Your whole contention is fundamentally flawed

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It absolutely is. Go check out what Wheel of Time or Rings of Power viewer numbers did over the lifespan of the show.

Are you really using torrent data to support your basis for TLOU ?

If you cant use all data sets that is your own flaw..

We have the torrent data for the whole season of the last of us. If more people are downloading it week to week every week that shows that interest isnt waning.

Also televisionstats has it as the most popular show currently.

LINK

We would see a dropoff in online engagement and torrents and stuff like that if people were jumping off.

The reports of it's demise are greatly exaggerated.

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It absolutely is. Go check out what Wheel of Time or Rings of Power viewer numbers did over the lifespan of the show.

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Tracker on CBS had 11 million viewers. People watch shitty television.

Do you not agree that a lot of people watch bad television?

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Sure they do. Drizz statement was there is no correlation between popularity and quality. Thats asinine.

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I took at that he was meaning that it doesn't automatically mean that it correlates to quality. Which you were making it seem like. But given your last post, you don't think popularity automatically means quality.

So it's safe to assume that TLOU torrent popularity does not automatically mean that it is a good show. People watch bad TV, even on HBO.

You have got to stop comparing this show to GOT It's noting like GOT, especially to this point in GOT history.

And saying it's just one bad episode is just purposefully being obtuse. The ultimate gay episode from season one still had a top score rating on IMDB. The ratings are just down for season two in general. Outside of EP2 (which was a great episode) and this last one (I haven't seen), it's ratings are pretty bland. Again, down quite a bit from season one and not from review bombing.

This isn't some big revelation. It's a few very simple factors. The first and least important is the most likable character is now dead. But that's not the biggest deal, a show can recover from that and his death was well done. Second, the writing overall is down. So many corny lines and dumb scenes and entirely dumb episodes that make zero sense withing the context of the world they've created. That's a problem. Third, you have a completely unlikable character now leading your show. Not only is she completely unlikable, she's not a great actress so that doesn't help.

Add all those up, and you get a season of television that is a big dip in quality.