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The Graduate lives up to the hype

Posted on 7/1/24 at 1:44 pm
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 1:44 pm
Had always heard how great it was and finally got down to watching it.

Was pretty damn good, I had no clue how it was going to end.

I love the way it was shot, director and cinematography were great. It had a very unique look to it and some really cool scenes throughout.

Its a strange movie but would 100% recommend if you have yet to see it.







Posted by Brosef Stalin
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 1:59 pm to
This is a great movie but really strange. Dustin Hoffman is one of the most unlikeable main characters I've ever seen. He does everything wrong but still wins in the end.
Posted by Don Quixote
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 2:02 pm to
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Posted by Sam Quint
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 2:10 pm to
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It had a very unique look to it and some really cool scenes throughout.

this movie has always felt to me like the transition from what i (subjectively) view as "old timey" Hollywood movies to the more modern look and feel. i dont know if that makes any sense at all, but it does in my head.
Posted by JackDempsey
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 2:13 pm to
Great movie and it was something different. Hoffman had some good films, I think my favorite of his was Papillon.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 2:17 pm to
quote:

This is a great movie but really strange


best way to describe it.

Its weird as hell but I enjoyed the ride.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 2:18 pm to
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this movie has always felt to me like the transition from what i (subjectively) view as "old timey" Hollywood movies to the more modern look and feel. i dont know if that makes any sense at all, but it does in my head.



This is exactly what I was trying to say.
Posted by BRich
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 4:41 pm to
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this movie has always felt to me like the transition from what i (subjectively) view as "old timey" Hollywood movies to the more modern look and feel. i dont know if that makes any sense at all, but it does in my head.


It makes a lot of sense, and you're not the only one to notice this. My daughter gave me this book, which I recently finished reading:



As the description says,

"In the mid-1960s, westerns, war movies, and blockbuster musicals like Mary Poppins swept the box office. The Hollywood studio system was astonishingly lucrative for the few who dominated the business. That is, until the tastes of American moviegoers radically- and unexpectedly- changed. By the Oscar ceremonies of 1968, a cultural revolution had hit Hollywood with the force of a tsunami, and films like Bonnie and Clyde, The Graduate, Guess Who's Coming to Dinner, In the Heat of the Night, and box-office bomb Doctor Doolittle signaled a change in Hollywood-and America. And as an entire industry changed and struggled, careers were suddenly made and ruined, studios grew and crumbled, and the landscape of filmmaking was altered beyond all recognition."

I found it to be a great read and enjoyed it.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 4:56 pm to
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this movie has always felt to me like the transition from what i (subjectively) view as "old timey" Hollywood movies to the more modern look and feel. i dont know if that makes any sense at all, but it does in my head.


You’re describing the New Hollywood era, which is typically outlined as starting in 1967 and into the 70s.

This was the time where a new wave of directors all came in and immediately changed the game. Scoresesse, Coppola, Spielberg, George Lucas etc all started making their first movies and I believe some even attended the same film school

Specific to this movie, the reason the graduate is seen as such a watershed moment along with Bonnie and Clyde and a few other early ones as the real division point, is because it essentially lead to the dissolution of the Hays code, which is what makes “old Hollywood” feel like that. These movies showed that the broad audiences were craving more realistic and creative ideas on screen and that the controversy of the content wouldn’t prevent it from being financially successful



There’s also an interesting period of Hollywood history right after the silent age but before the Hays code where you can find a few (not a ton are still around) movies that touched on really dark or sexual subjects decades before the new wave era brought in modern cinema. The Hays code was US specific so plenty of other counties already had mature subjects and content ahead of that, but these movies paved the way for more international movies being played for broad audiences, and more movies being made internationally for US audiences by international directors


Posted by Jack Ruby
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 5:12 pm to
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He does everything wrong but still wins in the end


No he doesn't. That's what the final shot displays. He was in love with the idea of the daughter and marrying her. Not actually being in the relationship.

Ultimately, he's a hollow, shallow yuppie. Just like everyone else in the film.
Posted by TigerintheNO
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 5:20 pm to
Mrs. Sam Elliott had quite a run in the late 60s






Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 5:24 pm to
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I love the way it was shot, director and cinematography were great.


Film school loves to show it to the students and analyze shots and transitions.

One of my all-time favorites.

They used to have a debate about it. Is it a Comedy or a Drama? So then a genre became Dramedy.
Posted by chinese58
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 5:45 pm to
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I had no clue how it was going to end.


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Posted by Jack Ruby
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 5:59 pm to
Most people under a certain age had the ending spoiled long before they saw the film by Wayne's World 2.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 7:08 pm to
He's a creepy weirdo who basically gets called a stalker and gets busted having an affair with his girlfriend's mom. What woman would want to marry him?
Posted by Tigris
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 7:39 pm to
quote:

quote:

He does everything wrong but still wins in the end



No he doesn't. That's what the final shot displays. He was in love with the idea of the daughter and marrying her. Not actually being in the relationship.

Ultimately, he's a hollow, shallow yuppie. Just like everyone else in the film.


Exactly - the closing scene is brilliant.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
27322 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 9:09 pm to
Anyone who enjoyed The Graduate should also go watch Shampoo (1975).

Would be a great double feature.

Shampoo is streaming on Amazon right now, I believe.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 9:34 pm to
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He's a creepy weirdo who basically gets called a stalker and gets busted having an affair with his girlfriend's mom. What woman would want to marry him?


Technically it wasn't his girlfriend, he was told to take her out on a date and he tries to turn her off on purpose by taking her to a nudie bar....but unlike naive Travis Bickel taking Cybil Sheppard to a Porn movie on their first date, Benjamin has no desire for her. .Its only when Mrs. Robinson forbids him from seeing Elaine, does Benjamin become infatuated.

Remember when George tried to be the bad boy in Seinfeld? Same concept. No interest from Elaine's assistant until she was told to stay away from George. The final shot of The Graduate shows Benjamin looking like "oh shite" what did I just do? He doesn't even really know her and he just broke up her wedding and she has the same resignation on her face.

Benjamin has no clue what to do in life and he admits it throughout the entire film. The entire movie is about the impulsive nature of youth. It's really not any sort of love story....that's why it can be seen as a comedy of the human condition.
Posted by Rockbrc
Attic
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 11:59 pm to
Bancroft had some nice gams
Posted by LA Lightning
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 7/3/24 at 6:12 pm to
Mike Nichols was nominated for the Academy Award for "Best Director". Some innovative shots such as shooting from inside a closet.

And the soundtrack was also the introduction to the great music of Simon and Garfunkel for many folks.
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