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re: The Boys Season 3 Spoilers

Posted on 7/3/22 at 3:32 pm to
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 7/3/22 at 3:32 pm to
[You could say they were trying to paint Homelander as a bit like Trump with his conspiracy angle, but then there actually is a conspiracy and it's far different, bigger and more bizarre than anyone thinks. And the signs for the guy he's supporting (the name escapes me) are very definitely patterned after Biden's 2020 signs.[/quote]
Kripke has said that Homelander is basically Trump. I don't care and still love the show because I am able to separate my political beliefs from my entertainment but you're not imagining things. LINK
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The evil-Superman-style character Homelander is becoming more and more of a direct Trump analogue this season. What was your thinking there?
He’s always been a Trump analogue for me. I’ll admit to being a little more bald this season than I have in past seasons. But the world is getting more coarse and less elegant. The urgency of our team’s writing reflects that. We’re angrier and more scared as the years go on, so that is just being reflected in our writing. But part of it is where Homelander’s story naturally goes. He has this really combustible mix of complete weakness and insecurity, and just horrible power and ambition, and it’s just such a deadly combo. Of course he would feel victimized that people are angry that he dated a Nazi. All he ever wants is to be the most powerful person he can be, even though he’s completely inadequate in his abilities to handle it. So it’s white-male victimization and unchecked ambition. And those issues just happened to reflect the guy who, it’s just still surreal to say it, was fricking president of the United States. And it’s a bigger issue than just Trump. The more awful public figures act, the more fans they seem to be getting. That’s a phenomenon that we wanted to explore, that Homelander is realizing that he can actually show them who he really is and they’ll love him for it. 
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37538 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 3:51 pm to
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found the rally with Homelander to be interesting. You could say they were trying to paint Homelander as a bit like Trump with his conspiracy angle, but then there actually is a conspiracy and it's far different, bigger and more bizarre than anyone thinks. And the signs for the guy he's supporting (the name escapes me) are very definitely patterned after Biden's 2020 signs.


There is some of that for sure. Even as someone who thinks bad things about Trump I hope they tread lightly on the comparisons going forward. If I wanted to worry about that stuff I would watch the news and spend time on Twitter.

Anyway the fact that the AOC character is also evil is a big saving grace. The fact that they may team up is even more interesting because it makes the show more about universal corruption and abuse of power than partisan politics
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
35402 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 5:48 pm to
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The fact that they may team up is even more interesting because it makes the show more about universal corruption and abuse of power than partisan politics


Yes please. Leave the comparisons to real life people out of it and just tell the story of how power corrupts. Super power, political power, etc - doesn't matter which side of the fence you sit on, once you get there it corrodes you.
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
18553 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 10:39 pm to
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After the warning about suicide before the episode, I was fully expecting Black Noir to kill himself


I thought it was going to be Maeve after Homelander said he would harvest her eggs.
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
17281 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 5:55 am to
Given that temp V kills your after 3-5 doses, it seems pretty obvious that Hughie and Butcher are going to need to transition permanently with compound V.
Posted by ThePoo
Work
Member since Jan 2007
61635 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 12:23 pm to
Maybe a dose of the actual V is the only thing that can make them strong enough to keep the temporary V from killing them?
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37538 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 12:37 pm to
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Given that temp V kills your after 3-5 doses, it seems pretty obvious that Hughie and Butcher are going to need to transition permanently with compound V.


Yeah. And MM has to get his shot against Soldier Boy.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
66103 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 11:48 pm to
His character carries so much burden.

A Train getting Hawks heart is wild
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
17281 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 8:05 am to
Totally
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39279 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 12:40 pm to
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They took all sorts of elements from both sides of our real world politics, mixed them all together and created something unique which can appeal to, or be written off by, both sides (much like Maeve's Inclusive Kingdom).

It’s so well done it’s kinda tricky to process, but the show’s constant mockery of social media and mainstream media is spot-on.
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
18553 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 4:53 pm to
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A Train getting Hawks heart is wild


Was hoping he was dead, but this was funny. I’ve decided the guy that plays A Train is a really good actor. Like with Homelander, if they can make me hate the character as much as I do, they’re doing a bang up job.
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
32398 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:07 pm to
Very random bump, but I watched all of season 1 when it came out. We watched the first episode of Season 2 and bowed out at my wife’s behest.

She’s gone and I’m home alone for the first time in a while so I just restarted.

Anthony Starr is freaking criminally underrated. I know this is not an Emmy/GG type show but he is absolutely the Starr (:rimshotifitstillworked:) of the show.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:53 pm to
Trump is a POS.

Just like everyone else in Washington DC
Posted by philly444
stuck in contraflow
Member since Nov 2008
12380 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 11:39 pm to
How did this become political
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 2:44 am to
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How did this become political
when people got their feelings hurt over homelander doing things
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
156622 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 9:29 am to
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(:rimshotifitstillworked:)

: rimshot2 : still works, FYI:


Posted by Josh Fenderman
Ron Don Volante's PlayPen
Member since Jul 2011
7044 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 9:43 am to
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It’s so well done it’s kinda tricky to process, but the show’s constant mockery of social media and mainstream media is spot-on.

A lot of it reminds me of a classic Paul Verhoeven movie.

Even the episode descriptions I’ll take the time to read
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
32398 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 10:04 am to
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How did this become political



so i just got to where stormfront reveals herself as a racist murderer (again, only onseason 2.)

i'll say that they made it political fairly one sided for that season, but that was also in the weird area in 2017-2019 where everything en vogue to make your bad guys white supremacists intent on murdering black people. it's an easy target that 99% of the populace will vilify happily.

the problem was that at that time they were trying to say everybody that voted a certain way was a white supremacist.

media and hollywood: White Supremacists are bad!
everybody: Yeah!
M&H: we're going to have entertainment where we kill white supremacists!
everybody: Yeah! white supremacists suck!
M&H: If you vote for Trump or are a conservative, YOU'RE a white supremacists
50% of everybody: Wait, WTF. No we're not.
the other 50%: Yeah!!!
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
8665 posts
Posted on 7/7/22 at 7:41 pm to
Episode 8 is up.
Posted by Hailstate15
ForeverGator's mom's
Member since Nov 2018
21466 posts
Posted on 7/7/22 at 7:58 pm to
Noir has said like 15 total words and he is still easily my favorite character
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