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re: The Boys Season 2 (Spoilers) Episode 8 “What I Know”

Posted on 9/26/20 at 4:43 pm to
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 9/26/20 at 4:43 pm to
Butcher is right. Starlight’s powers are pretty lame. She probably doesn’t have that great of control over her powers either.
Posted by Duzz
Houston
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Posted on 9/26/20 at 7:35 pm to
First off, amazing episode, I was wondering about Lamplighter but this is a hero with a conscience, so I like it.

Also, about Homelander, I think in Season 1, he went from a baby, wanting a mother figure and instant gratification, to a boy, who wanted family and a playmate/sibling. Thats Ryan and his son.

In Season 2, he went from wanting a boy who wanted a family to a horny teenager boy whos in a relationship for the first time.

I think at the end of Season 2 he will grow up into a young adult and next season a man.

Also, in regards to spoiler from the comics. First I wouldn't worry too much about it, the TV show used the same character and some of the beats but the comic storyline all gone to hell now.

1. Stiwell was still alive at the end of the comics.

2. Stormfront was a man and never had any sexual relation with Homelander.

3. There was no nazi labs.

4. Starlight and Hughie never teamed up that fast.

5. Also Butcher wife was legit dead and there was no Ryan. Ryan in the comic laser beam his way out of her womb.

So throw the comic books storyline out the window. You have similar beats sure but its like the MCU version of the Boys we are watching.

I think Black Nori is not actually homelander minder but a Black Superman that Edgar is sitting on.

I also think he knows what Stormfront is up to and is creating black supermen as the new waves for "diversity." Since the show actually love poking fun of wokeness.

Edgar could also believe in a master race but believe it should be Black people. So that makes Stormfront a black herring.

I am all but certain that Homelander would kill Stormfront in the end as a way to boost his reputation for killing a living nazi.

Just my thoughts.
This post was edited on 9/26/20 at 7:50 pm
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84761 posts
Posted on 9/26/20 at 8:49 pm to
I’m most interested in the supes and Vaught. I’m entertained by the antics of the Boys but their overall storyline seems a bit aimless at this point. Alerting the public to Compound V seemed like such a big goal which should’ve brought down Vaught.

They broke the compound V story to the world, which apparently only inflicted some temporary bad press to Vaught and nothing more.

So now it’s just a general “we hate supes and Vaught” and the Boys are a rudderless ship without a real destination.

But still very entertaining
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 9/27/20 at 12:23 am to
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Edgar backed off of Butcher due to the threat of bad publicity, he probably did the same with Stormfront for that same reason. She'd spill the Nazi super secrets if they didn't let her in.


Maybe Edgar is just a front person and Stormfront has always been the real boss.

I mean, Stormfront was Vaught's wife so wouldn't she actually be the owner/main stockholder of the company now?
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 9/27/20 at 12:29 am to
They just aren't a threat to the supes. Spoiler question below..










In the books, all of the Boys were superpoweful by taking V (except for MM and his moms milk). Is that coming? Otherwise, how can they really fight against someone like Homelander?
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 9/27/20 at 4:21 pm to
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It doesn't appear that's the route they are going but you still don't know what parts of the comic they will keep on



That's my argument as well.

I'm perfectly ok firing up a non-comic spoiler thread if need be at this point. Clearly, even after others have asked, people are still going to post things.
Posted by stateofplay
Member since Sep 2018
1504 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 4:54 pm to
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I have no reason to think he gives two shits about the Nazi stuff. He doesn’t care what happens to humans.


I dont think he cares about Humans or the Nazi stuff either but he has a deep need to be loved by the populace. As others have said what greater hero moment than to take down a Nazi plot for word domination?
Posted by Scoob
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Member since Jun 2009
23555 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 10:56 pm to
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I have no reason to think he gives two shits about the Nazi stuff. He doesn’t care what happens to humans.



I dont think he cares about Humans or the Nazi stuff either but he has a deep need to be loved by the populace. As others have said what greater hero moment than to take down a Nazi plot for word domination?
Yep, reading public perception on the macro level;

collateral damage in an African village, bad optics. No immediate threat to America and he's going overkill and taking out civilians.

No matter how much mayhem occurs, stopping an actual Super Nazi ON AMERICAN SOIL is something that will be proclaimed a needed and heroic action. Any means necessary. No matter how many die, it stops something worse.
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I mean, Stormfront was Vaught's wife so wouldn't she actually be the owner/main stockholder of the company now?
No, the US investors and government held the strings. Vaught was simply someone they let live due to flipping sides. He held no power over here.

Those real-life German scientists who flipped over and aided the US got to keep working, instead of facing a firing squad. If they would have gotten out of line, they would have disappeared.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109289 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 9:42 am to
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There’s def something up with the damn Fresca.


It has been out of stores since the start of the pandemic due to aluminum supply shortages to make cans, with Coca-Cola prioritizing their other beverages for production first. It may be as simple as showing it for product placement purposes as it is starting to be made again. Still funny though.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109289 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 9:48 am to
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The murder of the guy for his car should weigh extra heavy on Starlight.


Would be an epic crossover if they had Monk come in to investigate Randy's murder.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 11:16 am to
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2nd'meh 'episode in a row, imo.


You're nuts. I thought Episode 5 was kind of underwhelming even with all of the Black Noir/Terror things going on. But Episode 6 kicked things up to 11. They had several big reveals and closed out some story lines that had been hanging out there like Storm Front, Frenchie and Lamplighter. They keep coming up with new, comical ways to kill/attack people. If you thought Episode 6 was meh you probably should stop watching the show.

For everyone wondering about the roles of the Church and Mr. Edgar, I bet they'll be working together at some point. As others have said, Mr. Edgar seems more likely to double cross Stormfront than be his lackey. The Church feels it's got enough juice to get the Deep and A-Train back in the 7, so they must know somebody. These 2 "unaligned" groups seem like a good match at some point in the future.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
108056 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 5:04 pm to
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For everyone wondering about the roles of the Church and Mr. Edgar, I bet they'll be working together at some point. As others have said, Mr. Edgar seems more likely to double cross Stormfront than be his lackey. The Church feels it's got enough juice to get the Deep and A-Train back in the 7, so they must know somebody. These 2 "unaligned" groups seem like a good match at some point in the future.




The SO has a theory that Vought has different "divisions" they direct (i.e. pharm, supes, etc.) and that religion is one of them. That it's really a rehab program made by Vought to rehab supes either back into major roles at the company or to determine that they're completely used up.
Posted by PeteRose
Hall of Fame
Member since Aug 2014
18170 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 5:09 am to
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Butcher is right. Starlight’s powers are pretty lame.


Her personality is pretty lame. Seems like she always have some self righteous line or speech. And the “You idiot. Why did you pull out a gun” at Randy line was eye roll worthy. Like it’s unreasonable for a person to pull out a gun when 3 strangers approaching him on road, trying to take his car. He doesn’t know them or what they want or capable of.
Posted by cfish140
BR
Member since Aug 2007
9171 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 7:36 am to
Not a bad episode but I’m not quite as high on it as everybody else, thought it was kinda slow. We need an epic supe vs supe throwdown soon, all the fight scenes involving them have been really short thus far. I’m sure it will happen soon
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
108056 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 7:46 am to
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Not a bad episode but I’m not quite as high on it as everybody else, thought it was kinda slow.


So I have to ask, what is your idea of not slow? There's was plenty of action and plot advancement, so I'm a little confused as to what defines slow.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 7:46 am to
I wanna know who the hell on the creative for this show bought stock in Fresca because damnit I may buy some later.
Posted by Sgt_Lincoln_Osiris
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2014
1176 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 8:26 am to
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Alerting the public to Compound V seemed like such a big goal which should’ve brought down Vaught.

They broke the compound V story to the world, which apparently only inflicted some temporary bad press to Vaught and nothing more.


Oh you mean like what happens every day in the real world?
Posted by kballa6
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
4185 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 8:56 am to
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Like it’s unreasonable for a person to pull out a gun when 3 strangers approaching him on road, trying to take his car. He doesn’t know them or what they want or capable of.


My thought behind him being an idiot. I see the three of them walking out of the woods in the middle of nowhere, I'm not risking my life over my car. Especially if I have a kid at home, but I get it's a tv show and part of Starlight's character arc.

Overall I loved the episode and I'm hoping the final few episodes build on that intensity.
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
18566 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 9:24 am to
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We need an epic supe vs supe throwdown soon, all the fight scenes


Oh, there was an epic supe vs supe throwdown in Ep. 5, it just wasn't a fight scene (maybe kinda, it was rough).
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109289 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 9:30 am to
Which reminds me, how sensitive will MM be to "just the tip" jokes going forward?
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