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re: The Book of Boba Fett (Chapter 7 FINALE SPOILERS pg.41)

Posted on 2/7/22 at 4:41 pm to
Posted by LSUFreek
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 4:41 pm to
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I guess the mandalorian title is actually Grogu and not Din.
Could be, like how the title Return of the Jedi is about Anakin and not Luke.


Since both Mando & Grogu were both orphans (aka foundlings), could "The Mandlorian" be a plural form of their nationality/tribe (ex: The French/The Japanese, etc.)
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 5:01 pm to
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It’s kind of sad that Boba can’t bring that by himself but idc. Bringing in Mando, Luke, Ashoka and Bane was a slam dunk decision.


Part of me thinks that at some point in the planning, writing, preparation, rehearsals, etc, the show runners figured out that the Boba focused show was not working at a top level, so ramped up Mando's involvement the last couple of episodes. I'm thinking Luke, Grogu and maybe Ashoka were probably always planned to have a part (like Luke did towards the end of Mandalorian). But I'm thinking their parts may have been expanded as well.
Posted by UnluckyTiger
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 5:14 pm to
That episode was like a small scale Infinity War.
Posted by TideWarrior
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 6:56 pm to
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Part of me thinks that at some point in the planning, writing, preparation, rehearsals, etc, the show runners figured out that the Boba focused show was not working at a top level, so ramped up Mando's involvement the last couple of episodes.


My guess is this is exactly how they wanted it to go. SW fans have been clamoring for the return of Boba but I think this is about bringing him back into the overall story for future use.

The first four episodes were more about his backstory since he climbed out of the pit. Now we are intertwining him with other characters like Mando, Ashoka, and even Luke now.

Also notice everything is taken place on Tatooine.

Mando spent time there on missions including looking for Shand

Anakin was born there

Luke was raised there

Obi lived there while watching over Luke

We are first introduced to Han and Chewie there

Anakin returns to find and revenge his mother which sends him off to the dark side and becomes Darth Vader

Han Solo is taken to Jabba's Palace in carbonite

Lando and Leia come to free Han

Boba assumed to be dead but comes back

The planet is being taken(attempt) over by the Pykes who Ashoka fought against in the final season of the Clone Wars

Darth Maul is killed by Obi while looking for Luke in SW Rebels.

Hell even Rey returns in the end of 9.

Just about every major character in SW has a connection it somehow

I think Tatooine is like the central hub and you will need Boba to operate on it if he survives the war. I think Boba's backstory has been filled(by Disney standards) and now we are going to se him in other series and maybe even movies going forward. The stage has been set.



This post was edited on 2/7/22 at 6:58 pm
Posted by LSUFreek
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 8:17 pm to
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I think Tatooine is like the central hub


Tatooine is Star Wars to me. I know some fans have gotten tired of the "incessant desert scenes", but there is no setting that feels more Star Warsy, planet-wise.

Call me crazy, but I have a similar affection for WW2 epics that take place in the European theater (like Band of Brothers) as opposed to the films with a Pacific setting (which somehow always feels more Vietnam War than WW2, if that makes any sense).
Posted by TideWarrior
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 8:31 pm to
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Tatooine is Star Wars to me. I know some fans have gotten tired of the "incessant desert scenes", but there is no setting that feels more Star Warsy, planet-wise.

Call me crazy, but I have a similar affection for WW2 epics that take place in the European theater (like Band of Brothers) as opposed to the films with a Pacific setting (which somehow always feels more Vietnam War than WW2, if that makes any sense).


I agree but as I said I also think it goes back to being the foundation of all the characters and story arcs. We are introduced to the original heroes there in the beginning.

This tiny planet in the Outer Rim that the mighty empire or whoever is in charge at the time never pays attention to it but yet does more to to shape the galaxy than anything else.

This post was edited on 2/7/22 at 8:33 pm
Posted by LSUFreek
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Posted on 2/8/22 at 9:06 am to
This last episode, that emphasizes the taboo Jedi attatchment issues, got me thinking.

Lucas made up these silly rules in the prequels to justify Anakin's fall so he could transform him into Vader, all the while Luke/Leia/Rey are clearly allowed to have strong attatchments with others.

Wouldn't it have been easier, and even more interesting, if Vader was Luke's father because there was a prequel love triangle (a la ep.4&5 Han, Leia, Luke) between Anakin, Padme & a young Jedi/pupil of Obi-wan, named Darth Vader, who later turns to the Dark Side and hunts down/kills Anakin & the Jedi Knights? Making Anakin & Vader the same person ultimately made everything unnecessarily difficult.
Posted by TideWarrior
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Posted on 2/8/22 at 12:01 pm to
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This last episode, that emphasizes the taboo Jedi attatchment issues, got me thinking.


After watching the Clone Wars you get the sense their lacking to have feelings or any connection outside of the force was their downfall. Why they were so blinded to the dark side with refusing to connect emotionally. As the CW series continued we see Anakin starting to question their way and why Ashoka eventually refused to return. Even Obi became attached and fell in love.

In all actuality it was emotion that made Anakin the greatest Jedi of his time. Why his troops followed him with so much passion.

Remember the Jedi refusal to accept attachment and allow emotion was out of fear where it could lead one if they could not control it. So it was easier to teach to mentally block it instead of trying to control it. We saw with Anakin how hard it was in the end and why he became Vadar. Luke was the only one to express emotion and yet control it, hence why he may be the greatest Jedi ever and yet that story has never been told on the big screen unfortunately.
Posted by LSUFreek
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Posted on 2/8/22 at 1:20 pm to
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In all actuality it was emotion that made Anakin the greatest Jedi of his time.

Yeah, I undertand how they retconned/made sense of the non-sensical rules, but I still maintain it all could have been avoided.

Hell, in A New Hope, Lucas based his Jedi's on Samurai's, not celibate religious monks.

Lucas could have written other logical Dark Side-turning sins (like greed, envy, adultery, cowardice, etc) as opposed to it being a glorified sin to love one's mother and wife. The fact that Grogu can't even take a visit from his surrogate father bc it might one day turn him into a Sith Lord shows how unnecessarily difficult Lucas made the rules for Jedi's.
Posted by FreddieMac
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Posted on 2/8/22 at 1:33 pm to
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This last episode, that emphasizes the taboo Jedi attatchment issues, got me thinking.

Lucas made up these silly rules in the prequels to justify Anakin's fall so he could transform him into Vader, all the while Luke/Leia/Rey are clearly allowed to have strong attatchments with others.



Maybe, in the EU, this was way more flushed out. What Luke changed about Jedi in the new republic was not voiding attachments but more how you reacted if something happened to those attachments. A code of conduct. Vader did not handle it well. Luke did with Mara Jade and his family.

That is what made Last Jedi so horrible. Luke would have never, ever considered killing his nephew who had done absolutely nothing at that point. He had every reason to kill Vader, the man was a mass murderer, but family bond was too strong. That was a plus and ultimately the reason the Emperor was killed. So Luke learning from his father's mistakes and learning how to be a Jedi with attachments is the point.

Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 2/8/22 at 3:28 pm to
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Take the chainmail and remind Luke that Jedi are supposed to build their own lightsaber as a part of their training.

This is the correct answer. With 99% of the Jedi extinct at this point, and no danger of Grievous beating you to the punch at the Galactic Goodwills for ownerless lightsabers, beskar chainmail is a helluva lot harder to come by.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/8/22 at 3:31 pm to
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I think the average Jedi just isn't that great of a fighter.

The majority were diplomats and glorified bodyguards. It shouldn't be surprising that the Clone Troopers clobbered most.
This post was edited on 2/8/22 at 3:47 pm
Posted by Bonkers119
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Posted on 2/8/22 at 3:48 pm to
My body is ready for tomorrow. I hope it's at least an hour long.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 2/8/22 at 3:50 pm to
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My body is ready for tomorrow.
I expect to lose a few social media friends by the end of tomorrow's work day.
Posted by TideWarrior
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Posted on 2/8/22 at 6:51 pm to
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Lucas could have written other logical Dark Side-turning sins (like greed, envy, adultery, cowardice, etc) as opposed to it being a glorified sin to love one's mother and wife


Those were the Dark Side turning sins as you said. It was not a glorified sin to love his mother or anyone. The issue was finding balance which the majority could not do so it was simpler to avoid and not embrace either. The Jedi believe that having attachment and showing love or whatever to something would one day introduce them to sadness, despair, and loss once it was gone or the person died. If they could not handle those emotions it could lead to anger, aggression, revenge and down a dark path which is the way of the Sith.
Posted by hth52
Member since Jun 2016
2836 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 11:44 pm to
Yeah, thats the trick. Love is not forbidden. Attachment is. But relationships lead to attachment a lot of the time. Attachment can easily lead to things like greed, jealousy, and fear among other emotions.

Look at Obi Wan. He loved Satine a lot, He loved Qui Gon like a father, and he loved Anakin like a brother. But he never got dangerously attached. He didn’t lose his cool when Satine was killed. If Anakin were in his place with Padme being murdered it’d been totally different.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/8/22 at 11:46 pm to
Let's guess what happens.

Crimson Dawn ?

Luke shows up to save day?

Fett dies?

Captain Rex shows up?

I know I won't guess it. I wish I had it in me to stay up 3 more hours.
I guess I'll watch it before work tomorrow and pretend I'm watching it for the first time later that night.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 2/9/22 at 12:09 am to
10000% Qira shows up, right?
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74317 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 12:39 am to
Not like she's the hot in demand actress e tight she would be a few years ago. I can see her showing up and being a player in season 3 of Mando.

Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
16312 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 2:57 am to
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Let's guess what happens.

After last episode, anything is possible.

But Boba riding a rancor is a 100% lock.
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