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re: The Batman is out now on HBO Max

Posted on 5/2/22 at 9:41 am to
Posted by finchmeister08
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Posted on 5/2/22 at 9:41 am to
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Just cause you're woke don't mean you're gonna date broke.


plus, she has "pussy privilege". whether or not you think she's attractive is subjective.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/2/22 at 12:04 pm to
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The movie was meant to be watched in a theater. It’s much better when the sound and screen immerses you


The sound mix was absolute arse. Either you couldn't hear the dialogue or you were waking the dead with sound effects. Reminded me a lot of the abomination that was Tenet.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/2/22 at 12:24 pm to
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Reminded me a lot of the abomination that was Tenet.
Not sure where you saw it but in Dolby it was perfect. I saw Tenet in Dolby and had no idea what they were saying.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35606 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 1:32 pm to
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I actually enjoyed it way more than I thought I would. Highly entertaining and I enjoyed the super dark feel to it. As for the anti-white moments. I mean, at this point, I expect to hear something along these lines in most movies today. There were only a couple "woke" moments. But even when Selina said something along the lines of all the rich white guys, she ends up falling for a rich white guy lol. So whatever. Overall, i really dug the movie.
Thats pretty much the majority. Most acknowledge some political insinuations, but still enjoyed it. Not everyone is going to and that’s fine.

Most teenagers don’t gaf about any of the political stuff, and some don’t even notice it. That’s one of the reasons the audience received this movie so well.

I think everyone has a right to their opinion. And they can dislike the movie for whatever reason they want. Whether it’s political, whether they thought it was boring, too long, not enough action, whatever. Who cares. It’s their opinion. And I think no matter what I feel about their opinion, good on them for voicing it. Sometimes reading others opinions will make me think. Sometimes I change my mind on things. Sometimes I read opinions and think that I completely disagree. Sometimes I’ll look at opinions and think, well, I don’t agree with that, but that was an interesting take. And sometimes opinions piss me off . Not as much anymore, but it happens. And I realize how absolutely pointless it is to get pissed off by something like that.

My opinion is that it would have been a well made limited series. Maybe not the best movie because of its length, sub par popcorn action, and too many plot points. But the political stuff didn’t bother me because I’ve always seen comics as political. Especially Batman. Some of the politics I agree with. Some of them I don’t. But I have always enjoyed the attempt to get me to think beyond “beatem up” comic action and ask questions. To see true human behavior. Even if I agree with them or not. Just one of the reasons why I have no problem with the politics.

And yes, I understand that not everyone feels that way. And that’s ok. There are many things I want to see in certain movies that I’ll never get lol. But I don’t have creative control. Ultimately the money will talk and expose the reality. It never fails. Even with a film like Armageddon. Absolutely terrible movie, but it came out at a time where it was what the majority wanted to see. So even though it sucked, it was a successful movie. It just didn’t have longevity.
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 5/5/22 at 11:01 pm to
DirectTV has a free HBO sampler right now and is showing The Batman.

Just starting it now, in fact.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/5/22 at 11:24 pm to









this is me to this thread....


Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 5/5/22 at 11:28 pm to
One of the biggest problems with this movie was the action/fight scenes (aside from a 180lb heroin addict Batman). Some of the flopping by the henchmen when getting punched or struck was noticeably bad. I realize not every punch or strike on screen is going to be perfect. But some of the flopping would have made a soccer fan blush.

Full disclosure, I’m as big of a Snyderverse fan as there is on here and I personally think Batfleck is the best live action iteration of the character in my lifetime. You have no doubt that a hulking brute like the Snyder Batman can take care of business. And, frankly, the warehouse fight scene is the best action/fight sequence in superhero movies. There is no point in this movie that you look at Patman and believe any bad guy is scared or intimidated by him.

Plus, as others said, the Batsuit was a disappointment. We get it. This is Batman at the beginning of his crime fighting career. Still, his suit has to look a little better than a trailer park ComicCon knockoff.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35895 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 11:37 pm to
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aside from a 180lb heroin addict Batman





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Full disclosure, I’m as big of a Snyderverse fan as there is on here and I personally think Batfleck is the best live action iteration of the character in my lifetime. You have no doubt that a hulking brute like the Snyder Batman can take care of business. And, frankly, the warehouse fight scene is the best action/fight sequence in superhero movies. There is no point in this movie that you look at Patman and believe any bad guy is scared or intimidated by him.





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the Batsuit was a disappointment. We get it. This is Batman at the beginning of his crime fighting career. Still, his suit has to look a little better than a trailer park ComicCon knockoff.





Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 5/5/22 at 11:41 pm to
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And, frankly, the warehouse fight scene is the best action/fight sequence in superhero movies.


I agree. The fight scenes need to get better in the sequels. BvS had some kick arse action scenes. The rest of the movie is shite though.

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There is no point in this movie that you look at Patman and believe any bad guy is scared or intimidated by him.


I disagree here. He looked solid to me. He's towering over everyone in this movie. Also, Pattinson is about 6'2. He's not a little guy.

Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5179 posts
Posted on 5/8/22 at 10:46 pm to
Just finished. Felt like it was what the 89-90s batman versions should have been with 2021-22 tech and effects, which I thought was cool. Maybe a little too much on the noir, but it was cool to get this version.

Thought Pattinson himself was fine for the noir theme, but the fighting and suit was lacking to me. Much preferred Bale’s action sequences, and of course suit. Completely disliked the flight scene because of the suit/wings. His mask was terrible. I know we’re suspending disbelief and it’s a superhero movie, but good lord he got shot point blank range numerous times, including a shotgun and seemingly did little to nothing to the suit, which looked much less armored than Bale’s. As others mentioned I liked the detective aspect of this Batman.

Did not like Catwoman. Didn’t think the acting was that great and found her annoying at times.

Thought Riddler was fine. Weird, but fine. Not a huge fan of the acting, but the storyline was good to me.

Overall thought it was a good change from Nolan’s trilogy, but not on par with Nolan. Nice to see it done in a different style. LONG movie though. Could have been 30-45 shorter easily.

This post was edited on 5/8/22 at 10:49 pm
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
21345 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 8:33 am to
This movie sucked arse. There's just so many leaps in logic even for a comic book film that doesn't make any sense.

Batman can take dynamite at point blank range and not get a scratch. Ok.

Gotta add the Joker just because.

Catwoman was horribly written.

Film took way too long and definitely fell in love with its own shots way too much.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25939 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 9:28 am to
I watched half of it last night. Had it not been so boring i'd probably have sucked it up and stayed up late to finish it, but it didn't feel worthy of my time to do so, so i'll finish it tonight.

Pattinson as Batman, while physically looks the part, is just not a good Batman. I don't find him intimidating as Batman, nor do i find him anything like what you expect public figure Bruce Wayne to be. It's like he's the same person regardless if he's in the suit or not, and that same person sucks as both Bruce Wayne and Batman. He's trying to be intimidating by just staring at people and not talking, all the while the music is playing to try to tell us this is a dark film and we should be intimidated.
And before any of you noir film doofuses say anything, i purposely watched it at night knowing a stupid arse DC movie would be a dark colored film, and i have a great surround sound audio system. The score for this movie thus far has been rather off putting to me. It keeps trying to be noticeable to me, and it's aggravatingly not that great and taking away from the movie, but i guess that's what they were going for since the dialogue and action of the movie has been so minimal thus far.

color me not impressed at all thus far. Maybe i'll like the 2nd half better, or maybe after viewing it 2 or 3 more times i'll like it, but thus far it's been pretty shitty.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
21345 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 9:42 am to
The music is shite. Batmans Darth Vader theme bullshite when he walks around drove me insane.

When Bruce was listening to Nirvana while doing detective work I had to pause to take a deep sigh.

And to all the people who say oh he's still a damaged man from his family dying, he's allowed to be sad and dour: frick you. Did it ever occur to you thay Bruce Wayne being a playboy while Batman is a fricking sullen badass is the dichotomy that makes him an interesting character? Idgaf if that's how he was written. It was a bad choice.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
34628 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 9:53 am to
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nor do i find him anything like what you expect public figure Bruce Wayne to be. It's like he's the same person regardless if he's in the suit or not,


I'm not a huge defender of this movie though I did like it a lot, I can see why it's not for everyone. But this area is where quite a few people just miss the point. He's not a Bruce Wayne public figure or playboy. Right now he knows how to be Batman and that's it really. He hasn't embraced anything else, he didn't even want to meet with accountants to talk about money much less host huge parties and date models. You're hating on how you expect him to be, and what you're expecting is not what they were going for. He'll grow into a Bruce Wayne public figure in the future but right now he's focused on crime, and that's pretty much it.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51827 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 9:55 am to
Yeah the entire point of the ending was him realizing Gotham needs Bruce Wayne as much if not more than Batman.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
21345 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 10:07 am to
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He'll grow into a Bruce Wayne public figure in the future but right now he's focused on crime, and that's pretty much it.


And its boring. There's no dynamic being displayed. I understand why he's written that way, but it makes for a boring one note movie.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51827 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 10:09 am to
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And its boring. There's no dynamic being displayed. I understand why he's written that way, but it makes for a boring one note movie.
then this shite just ain't for you baw and you know what? that's ok.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
51782 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 10:11 am to
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but it makes for a boring one note movie.



I enjoyed it because it was a slow burn. I'm over all the CGI porn films, so I found this one refreshing. I just didn't care for that fight scene in the townhall. I do think the sequels will have more action and a more charismatic Bruce.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
34628 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 10:52 am to
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And its boring. There's no dynamic being displayed. I understand why he's written that way, but it makes for a boring one note movie.


And I can see someone thinking it's boring. I was just talking in terms of hating on a part of the movie that he didn't even understand.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25939 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 10:59 am to
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You're hating on how you expect him to be, and what you're expecting is not what they were going for. He'll grow into a Bruce Wayne public figure in the future but right now he's focused on crime, and that's pretty much it.



and that's why i said maybe after i watch it 2 or 3 times, or maybe after the sequels come out, i'll like this one more, but as for now, it sucks to me.

trying to subvert expectations on such a well known character is something that hasn't worked well recently.


And i'm fine with Batman focusing on crime, but what's the point of Bruce Wayne being a hermit? I still haven't figured out what has driven him to be that way. Is this movie portraying him as being that way his entire life thus far? If so, how did he get out of bed long enough to give a shite about fighting crime? Batman fights crime in Gotham b/c he cares about Gotham. Why is this Batman fighting crime?
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