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re: The Batman is out now on HBO Max
Posted on 5/10/22 at 10:36 am to abellsujr
Posted on 5/10/22 at 10:36 am to abellsujr
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You still at it
If someone is an idiot, I’m gonna call them an idiot.
Some idiot:
“This Batman is dumb. I’m only halfway through it, and I have no idea why he does what he does. This Bruce Wayne character sucks. He’s not charismatic at all. Doesn’t he know he’s needed to save Gotham just as much as Batman.”
Someone with logic:
“Finish the movie and you’ll understand it.”
The idiot:
“Oh, ok.”
People coming in expecting a Nolan type movie set themselves up for disappointment well before seeing the movie.
This post was edited on 5/10/22 at 10:43 am
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Posted on 5/10/22 at 11:54 am to whatiknowsofar
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It's the worst batman film since batman and Robin. Even rises was better than this.
This isn't that big of a knock really because there haven't been any bad Batman flicks since then. Unless you're counting Justice League and Batman v Superman. Personally, I loved TDKR, even with it's flaws.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 11:58 am to finchmeister08
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People coming in expecting a Nolan type movie set themselves up for disappointment well before seeing the movie.
see this right here, there's like 1% of the viewing audience that give a shite who the director is. Most people have no idea who directs any movie.
very few people go into a movie thinking it'll be a certain way b/c of a director b/c no one gives a shite about a director, or follows who directs what. Very small percent of people pay attention to that.
BUT, many people go into a Batman movie expecting certain BATMAN things.
First thing the majority of movie goers want to see is the batmobile. Considering it rained the whole fricking movie and every scene was at night, we barely even know what that batmobile looked like.
What kind of cool batman tech and weaponry did we see? the contact lens camera was cool. and if i remember correctly, this vagina batman was scared to jump off the building in his little flying squirrel suit.
The one cool fight scene was more interested in showing off the "different" cinematography than being a cool fight scene, as we barely saw anything with the lights going on and off the whole time. the lighting bothered me the entire scene and took away from it. Maybe they should watch Daredevil and get an idea of how to do a hallway fight scene.
The score was overbearing most of the time and made me feel like batman was considering suicide most of the time.
Batman barely ever talked, and when he did, he sounded no different than Bruce Wayne. There was nothing intimidating about this Batman that he actually did. Just b/c a few criminals acted scared of him doesn't make him intimidating. I mean a piece of shite cop put his hands on him to stop him from entering a crime scene and told him to get the frick out of here, all while batman just stared at him and let Gordon do the talking to let him in. His silence and stare for most of the movie was just dumb.
The Riddler was a terrible villain that basically tried to be the Heath Ledger Joker, and failed miserably, and his acting in the jail cell at the end was hilariously bad, as was batman's banging on the glass.
For all the talk about this Batman being a detective, well he was a shitty detective and we didn't see anything cool tech wise to help him with his detective work.
and the rat with wings riddle was so stupidly played out.
this movie cared more about dark cinematography and it's ridiculous score to try to show who Batman was, instead of actually letting Batman show who Batman is. Since i have great surround sound, which i was about to turn off b/c i couldn't take the stupid arse T-REX stomping every time Batman took a step. WHy they frick is Batman's boots making that much noise? Why is that important for the audience to hear as it was singled out several times?
Posted on 5/10/22 at 12:18 pm to TeddyPadillac
There's no point in me responding to any of the reasons you hated it because it sounds like you're just mad it wasn't a typical Batman or you wanted it to be BANG! POW! KA BOOM! throughout. So this just wasn't for you from the get go. There was no chance you were going to like it and the previews should have told you that because it was clear from them that this wasn't your typical Batman. I will say...
This just isn't true at all. I mean this is just stupid dude. Maybe you don't, but to think that %1 of the people know who directed the movie or give a shite who directed it is just you being ignorant.
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see this right here, there's like 1% of the viewing audience that give a shite who the director is. Most people have no idea who directs any movie.
very few people go into a movie thinking it'll be a certain way b/c of a director b/c no one gives a shite about a director, or follows who directs what. Very small percent of people pay attention to that.
This just isn't true at all. I mean this is just stupid dude. Maybe you don't, but to think that %1 of the people know who directed the movie or give a shite who directed it is just you being ignorant.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 12:33 pm to TeddyPadillac
The take on Batman in this one was:
Realistic and conventional
Wild West, Clint Eastwood intimidation
Young and inexperienced
But intelligent
Damaged and didn’t try to hide it
A loaner
No role models
That’s what they did. Some will like it. Some won’t.
The Riddler is a typical Batman villain. Damaged by society so they retaliate. It’s not just a joker thing. I would argue riddler’s motives are more explained in this one than joker’s are in tdk. Obviously Ledger’s performance was miles better.
Realistic and conventional
Wild West, Clint Eastwood intimidation
Young and inexperienced
But intelligent
Damaged and didn’t try to hide it
A loaner
No role models
That’s what they did. Some will like it. Some won’t.
The Riddler is a typical Batman villain. Damaged by society so they retaliate. It’s not just a joker thing. I would argue riddler’s motives are more explained in this one than joker’s are in tdk. Obviously Ledger’s performance was miles better.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 12:33 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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This just isn't true at all. I mean this is just stupid dude. Maybe you don't, but to think that %1 of the people know who directed the movie or give a shite who directed it is just you being ignorant.
much like twitter, just b/c you guys circle jerk each other on this board about directors doesn't mean the vast majority of the movie goers care about who the director is.
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There's no point in me responding to any of the reasons you hated it because it sounds like you're just mad it wasn't a typical Batman or you wanted it to be BANG! POW! KA BOOM! throughout. So this just wasn't for you from the get go. There was no chance you were going to like it and the previews should have told you that because it was clear from them that this wasn't your typical Batman. I will say...
i didn't need a BANG! POW! KaBOOM! batman movie. I needed a good fricking movie, and this was not. I enjoyed The Joker, and that wasn't a typical super hero/villain movie.
i didn't hate the movie, it just wasn't enjoyable to me, but as i said before, i thought that the world it's creating for this Batman going forward can be a good one, and i'm interested in the next movie, just hope they actually care about making a good movie.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 12:36 pm to TeddyPadillac
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i thought that the world it's creating for this Batman going forward can be a good one
That's what I'm excited about. The Penguin show is next, followed by a show about Arkham.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 12:36 pm to abellsujr
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I would argue riddler’s motives are more explained in this one than joker’s are in tdk.
This backstory hurt more than helped
then he also goes from "ok well I was trying to rid the city of corruption but now I'm just going to flood it and kill everyone."
Posted on 5/10/22 at 12:41 pm to BilJ
I mean, that’s typical for a Batman villain. Even my favorite Batman movie. The city has become so corrupt, drastic measures need to be taken and I’m not concerned with the casualties. Batman Begins did this also.
Ras did what he felt was necessary. Riddler as well. Their act was going to be remembered.
Ras did what he felt was necessary. Riddler as well. Their act was going to be remembered.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 12:43 pm to abellsujr
Yep, that part was fine for me. I just think it would have played better if it showed more of batman saving people instead of the townhall fight scene.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 12:50 pm to abellsujr
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Ras did what he felt was necessary.
right but they did that throughout history, destroying the city was always their end game
Posted on 5/10/22 at 12:55 pm to BilJ
That’s fair. And I’m not trying to defend their take. But Riddler essentially had the mind of a school shooter or bomber. And he wanted to go out doing what he felt was going to rid the city of the corruption. And didn’t care about causalities.
So as idiotic as his reasoning was, it’s typical for someone with that kind of mindset.
So as idiotic as his reasoning was, it’s typical for someone with that kind of mindset.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 1:28 pm to RLDSC FAN
I feel like people’s issue with the Riddler are more along the lines of not liking his character or his tactics. But his motivations actually make sense. His tactics are over the top obviously, but that fits with Batman villains in general imo.
My big issue was, I didn’t like him, I didn’t like his performance, and I found his entire existence uninteresting.
But I think he was accurate and consistent in his development.
My big issue was, I didn’t like him, I didn’t like his performance, and I found his entire existence uninteresting.
But I think he was accurate and consistent in his development.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 1:42 pm to TeddyPadillac
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much like twitter, just b/c you guys circle jerk each other on this board about directors doesn't mean the vast majority of the movie goers care about who the director is.
I'm actually curious of when the last time I commented about a director on here. Probably in a dune thread 1,000 posts ago. But sure, definitely a circle jerk.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 1:46 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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I'm actually curious of when the last time I commented about a director on here. Probably in a dune thread 1,000 posts ago. But sure, definitely a circle jerk.
it wasn't directed entirely at you. That's just how a lot of conversations go around here as if everyone that watches the movie has to understand the director, when the vast majority could give two shits about the director.
People keep talking about whoever this Rami guy is for Dr. Strange. I guarantee you 98% of the people that watched that movie don't have the slightest clue who the director is, and if you said his name, they still wouldn't know a single thing about him.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 3:51 pm to finchmeister08
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Some other idiot made this comment already.
You don't even know what a character arc is. You're the idiot
Posted on 5/10/22 at 4:48 pm to whatiknowsofar
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You don't even know what a character arc is. You're the idiot
Of course I do. It’s been mentioned by me along with others. You’re just too dumb to read and accept it.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 5:09 pm to finchmeister08
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You’re just too dumb to read and accept it
I gave you a counterpoint as to why you were wrong on Pattinson arc 2 pages ago and instead of trying to prove me wrong you just downvoted me.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 5:17 pm to whatiknowsofar
I don’t waste my time with downvotes.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 5:24 pm to finchmeister08
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don’t waste my time with downvotes.
So you just have no counterpoint to what I said. Which was true.
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